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01-02-2016 , 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Agorophob
Implying that Ike's role, or lack thereof, in the Hastings scandal is tantamount to the level of participation you describe is pure speculation .
How is it specualtion when Ike has openly admitted to being aware of the situation before anyone else, also why has jason mercier not been ran through the same fire when he was aware as well and even played with the noel hayes account.

Fandom aside you may respect the ability of what these players can do online/felt, but dont be foolish enough to be shocked when they do something self serving or unethical. Dont forget BH was just as beloved as ike serveral scams ago.
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01-02-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I hope Ike keeps a daily journal/diary, because at some point in the future, when he's given up playing, he could write the ultimate "kiss n' tell" about high stakes poker and Pokerstars. The full story about what really happens at high stakes might be eye-opening for the average NVG-er. For now, he still has a few years of crushing to attend to, and it makes no sense to burn bridges with other players and industry people at this point. I give him props for quietly drawing a line under the latest chapter in his epic journey.
I would certainly buy that book. Paper. Go vacationing and read it in a sunbathing chair with a good beer at my side. The most ive looked forward to any book in ages and it doesnt even exist!
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01-02-2016 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jstclkdabtn
Lol, all of your threads are in micros/live low stakes forums and you're calling me a fanboy?

Busto micros fish are hilarious.
Yeah I am an obsessive one at that,
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01-02-2016 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
How is it specualtion when Ike has openly admitted to being aware of the situation before anyone else, also why has jason mercier not been ran through the same fire when he was aware as well and even played with the noel hayes account.

Fandom aside you may respect the ability of what these players can do online/felt, but dont be foolish enough to be shocked when they do something self serving or unethical. Dont forget BH was just as beloved as ike serveral scams ago.
I'm not questioning that there was some degree of participation. Rather pointing out the Limon's example drew comparison to an egregious offense in a purely hypothetical situation, implying a greater degree of cheating than what has been openly admitted. I wouldn't be surprised if the caparison turns out to be accurate, but its not substantiated.

I'm never shocked when a poker player does something self serving. I'm shocked when they do something that's not, like resigning a lucrative PS position on ethical grounds.
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01-02-2016 , 01:51 PM
Why'd he say that he'll go to Manila to earn for a living? High stakes? Fishy high stakes?
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01-02-2016 , 02:02 PM
If Pokerstars had any integrity they would've fired the whole lot of you that were in on Hastings multi accounting. They've given Haxton a couple hundred thousand a year for doing nothing and he finds out someone is cheating and does nothing. This is poker's ethical God? LMAO....he probably is....haven't seen anyone better. Lindgren? No. Jesus Ferguson? No. Chino? No. Lederer? No.....the list goes on and on. About time they got rid of all these bumhunting, software using crooks. They provide nothing except the destruction of poker.
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01-02-2016 , 02:05 PM
Shouldn't the thread title be changed?
He clearly didn't resign.
Also now clear to start using real time software?
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01-02-2016 , 02:07 PM
Ike - thank you
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01-02-2016 , 02:08 PM
people are shady
link to the song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVYbBeLAldc
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01-02-2016 , 02:18 PM
Good job Ike. Much respect for not compromising your integrity for a pay check. Best of luck.
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01-02-2016 , 02:22 PM
Ronaldo also costs infinite more than someone like ike, plus there's some value in the Stars brand of being a great POKER site as far as reputation, a significant amount of amateurs like the intellectual challenge (aka skill) of the game and having top players being ambassadors of the sites generates goodwill. Ronaldo will draw in donkeys but adds no goodwill to the site and if anything takes away from the credibility of the site when people with some reasonable iq will realise that Rafa Nadal, ronaldo etc have nothing to do w poker and are essentially just random sell outs (nothing against them for this) who get paid to put a famous face to an unrelated brand. like if Miranda Kerr advertising watches or something.

I am not criticising stars as a business for endorsing someone like ronaldo, it's likely avoid $ decision. but if they make more money it's because they successfully draw people who like to gamble rather than be a good poker site like they used to be

they said "we are poker" and they really were.
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01-02-2016 , 02:41 PM
1. I'd be super-shocked if ike was making 6 figures. Everyone who knows who Ike is are the types who aren't going to randomly pick a site to deposit on because he's there and I doubt he had to do much extra work than he would have done anyway. I just don't know what basis anyone has to go on that he's making even more than like 40k/year.

2. People saying they did nothing wrong because it wasn't illegal are missing the point. There are plenty of legal things you can do that are unethical. If your spouse cheated on you would you be like "oh well she didn't break any laws we didn't have a contract that they couldn't cheat on me"? No of course not you think of them as unethical, usually break off association with them, and if there were other people who could be affected by it you tell them.
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01-02-2016 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
Ronaldo. Ainec.

Wat u people fail to understand is that neither staples nor sommerville are bringing in any desired players. The guys they bring in will have v limited disposable money (with few exceptions) and will either
A) bust very quickly and never come back
Or
B) become some sort of reg/regfish/semifish

Only real recreationals can bring real recreationals into teh game.
Not some muppets who tell you why it is better to play moar hands otb than in ep
What I do understand is that the conclusions of those that adopt a consistent misspelling of "the," "more" and "what" as some sort of affectation are not be believed without supporting evidence.
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01-02-2016 , 03:14 PM
IKE legend
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01-02-2016 , 03:16 PM
I am now an unconditional fan, I may or may not have to stalk u on the live tourney scene from now on, and possibly there may or may not be some type of groping attempt on your person.

GJ !
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01-02-2016 , 03:19 PM
impotent nerd rage itt. lol you got banned. haha.
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01-02-2016 , 03:31 PM
Teh Hollywood Haxton !
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01-02-2016 , 04:25 PM
Can't remember the last time I've seen this much ass licking and fanboydom in one thread...
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01-02-2016 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by zachvac
1. I'd be super-shocked if ike was making 6 figures. Everyone who knows who Ike is are the types who aren't going to randomly pick a site to deposit on because he's there and I doubt he had to do much extra work than he would have done anyway. I just don't know what basis anyone has to go on that he's making even more than like 40k/year.
where do you arrive at 40k/year? have you seen a bunch of sponsorship contracts and have a sense of where Ike fits in there, or you're just picking a number out of thin air?
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01-02-2016 , 04:55 PM
Well played !
Gl
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01-02-2016 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Agorophob
I'm not questioning that there was some degree of participation. Rather pointing out the Limon's example drew comparison to an egregious offense in a purely hypothetical situation, implying a greater degree of cheating than what has been openly admitted. I wouldn't be surprised if the caparison turns out to be accurate, but its not substantiated.

I'm never shocked when a poker player does something self serving. I'm shocked when they do something that's not, like resigning a lucrative PS position on ethical grounds.
Well I can see how limon came to that conclusion he realizes people doing anything unethical are willing to admit to smaller crimes.

Now i truly think IKE is telling the truth and im sure him or his fans dont appreciate someone adding elements to a story that hasnt been proven, but that comes with the territory when associating with seedy people.

The only thing I disagree with limon is just the camparison of punishments between a regulated casino and a unregulated off shore site. If Ike knew criminal punishment was a possibility im sure he would have stated everything he knew earlier.

FWIW im sure IKE told amaya right away and they probably stated they will investigate and told him to not commet for the sake of protecting the brand and we all know how transparent and forthcoming amaya is.

Last edited by Drrr.Gonzo; 01-02-2016 at 05:05 PM.
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01-02-2016 , 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by blopp
This quote is wrong.

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Ike handled Noel Hayestings wrong.





Still today is about him resigning over the stars changes. Sacrificing likely 6 figure salary in todays poker climate. How many other players would do the same?

He have said he can be more open going forward so let him have time to respond while traveling.

Oh wow guess my post is right and you are in fact wrong according to one the best and highest respected players (who also said his peers agree it wasn't a big deal)
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01-02-2016 , 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ihavethewheel
I agree LATB is painful. If I ever watch I mute the commentary from now on. I saw a rebroadcast the other day where he was slugging wine and going off on tangents having nothing to do with the game. Embarrassing.
His commentary is hilarious especially when with nicole and in between his rants you ll hear some tangible advice thats normally found in $2500 manifestos written by random pro xyz, but with his general lack of respect for todays olp and younger people I can see how he might rub people the wrong way especially in these overly sensitive PC times. That being said you can always call in on mondays latb poker sesh and tell him off personally that would be hilarious as well.
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01-02-2016 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by OMGClayDol
Ronaldo also costs infinite more than someone like ike
The deal between Amaya and Neymar jr. has been leaked fairly recently. I´d be amazed if Ronaldo´s contract wasn´t even bigger than that ...

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Originally Posted by mumpfmampf
The endorsement deal between Neymar and Amaya has been leaked by some guys who investigate the darker side of European football.

https://footballleaks2015.wordpress..../doyen-neymar/

Full contract:
https://mega.nz/#!9c4Q1Z5J!HNolG-jfZ...F5JyD5Ps518tjU

Seems like he´s on 2,000,000 Euros per year (see page 13) and Amaya will have to pay for all sorts of things on top of that.

Too lazy to go through the fine print, but somebody might want to do it.
So yeah, Ronaldo would have to be on something like $3m plus per year. I somehow doubt that Ike made >5 % of that amount ($200k p.a. would still seem like a very nice reward to a guy who doesn´t bring ANYTHING to the table in terms of bringing new net depositors to the game).

Last edited by mumpfmampf; 01-02-2016 at 05:40 PM.
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01-02-2016 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatnot
where do you arrive at 40k/year? have you seen a bunch of sponsorship contracts and have a sense of where Ike fits in there, or you're just picking a number out of thin air?
Thought I was pretty clear it was just an estimate of what I'd assume it to be worth based on my knowledge of economics and the poker industry. I thought I was pretty clear I could be wrong but I highly doubt anyone itt saying it's 6 figures have any clue either and pretty sure there will be NDAs involved so we'll never see the actual numbers.
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