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01-13-2008 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketpared
". I could not give up my family"?!?!?
You either live with your mother or have a wife and possibly kids. Which is it?
Some people enjoy living near and/or doing things with/for their family.
01-13-2008 , 11:17 PM
I still cant believe Mark didnt accept that courtesy anal.
01-13-2008 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by peachy
this isnt the only thing she has....

and this isnt even a fraction of the story!! LOL!! come on now!!

Yeah I know peachy. Its all coming out slowly. I think I have said enough.

I dont understand what the point would be commenting on the sexual nature of our relationship. What purpose would that serve any of this?

Last edited by pimprexel; 01-13-2008 at 11:24 PM.
01-13-2008 , 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Its pointless to put a dollar value on this past year. We'll just say the high six figures. Its only money. It can be replaced.
Hey, when we said it was all about the money, you claimed you didn't have any!

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This relationship was not based on sex.
"You're too fat, you never wash your hair and I only ever gave you one hand job because I felt sorry for you."

Is there an age difference between you, Brandon?

Last edited by glimmertwin; 01-13-2008 at 11:23 PM. Reason: Additional thought
01-13-2008 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Thank you Todd and Mike.

Everything I have stated is 100% truthful and accurate. As I mentioned in my first post things began to unravel about three weeks ago when it became apparent I would not be moving to Los Angeles with her. I realized this finally had to end. I could not give up my family and friends here and move with her and continue to neglect myself in trying to help her.

What I stated in regards to the crime she committed was vague. There is an ongoing investigation now with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police department, so it obviously limits what I can and should say. While I was away from my home, she sold/stole approximately $40,000 to $50,000 worth of posessions from my home. She was tracked down earlier this morning to a room at commerce casino. So when you see her playing over the next few days (until she loses as she always has), it is with the proceeds from my belongings. I am in the proccess of filing a claim with my insurance company and trying to determine an exact amount. Some of my things can never be replaced. Items that had no monetary vaule and were sentimental to me were thrown out and destroyed.

When I originally met Brandi, she barely had enough personal effects to fit in a closet. A few outfits, a couple of dvd's and some basic kitchen items. No televison, furniture, anything of value. I obviously have receipts for all the large valuable items that were taken but that is basically only for insurance purposes.

Due to some of the contacts that I have in this city, I was able to view her extensive criminal history besides what I was already aware of. I saw every charge, conviction and result. Every strip clubs she ever worked in Las Vegas was listed as well due to sheriff card laws and regulations. There apparently was also other criminal records in the state of California, New York, Texas, and Tennessee basically the same song and dance.

There is much more I can say. Maybe I will. My point of this post though was to tell the truth, not to cause more pain for anyone that is necessary. I am still somewhat in a state of shock as I basically found out the exact state of the situation this morning.

Many of the things I know, I have witnessed and would have no problem explaining if it really served a purpose. However, I am not sure if things I know about second hand or even have witnessed regarding others would be appropriate to disclose i.e sklansky, relationships with other well known pro's, things that she did to earn money during the world series etc. Its not my role or intent to embarass anyone else further.

Its pointless to put a dollar value on this past year. We'll just say the high six figures. Its only money. It can be replaced.

I want everyone to understand, my actions were not due to any lack of self esteem. I have dated attractive girls before that were normal and I will again. I erroneously thought I could make a difference in someones life that maybe never had a chance from the start. She will eventually go back to dancing and prostituting as she has since she was 15 and ran away from home.

I hated how she always thought she was an important celebrity. Many times whether it be a sold out restaurant, hotel or show...she would state to a person of authority " I am a celebrity. You can google me if you'd like " I thought it was sick. And basically that is why I have said what I have, because to Brandi, the way she is thought of and the impression people have of her is paramount to anything else.

This relationship was not based on sex. I live in Las Vegas. If getting laid consistently was my objective, this is obviously not the way I would have gone about things. I tried to save her from herself. From what the inevitable will be



Brandon
This is where you made the mistake.
01-13-2008 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Its absolutely hilarous to read these posts about Brandi. You all constantly speculate and offer conjour with out any idea as to what the truth and reality is. I am probably the only person on here that really truly knows her. In the short time we have known each other, she has done nothng but utterly amaze me. You guys want to bash a young attractive girl, who is naive to a lot of things, as we all were at that age. I know first hand that she is a good person and has a big heart. In the time that I have known her, she has been nothing but honest, loyal, and loving. Im n some famous poker type. I have nothing extravgant to offer other other to treat her well. So you guys continue to trash this beautiful girl without really knowing a thing about her. I sit there and watch her tear up a game, and then its reported she went bust. I see all the lies as they develope because there right in front of my face.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...69#post1514769

LOL
01-13-2008 , 11:24 PM
the last line is a little too ironic
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I see all the lies as they develope because there right in front of my face.
01-13-2008 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
To steal a large sum from someone who has taken care of you, provided for you, and given you a better lifestyle than you had ever experienced, is the worst kind of evil.
I think genocide and child rape are just a little bit worse, yes?

And face it, you didn't take care of her more than she did for you. I assume you were getting sex or at least blowjobs, as well as attention. It's not like you did her all these favors out of the goodness of your heart, for a random stranger you got nothing from. Odds are you sunk the porpoise once or twice.
01-13-2008 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
And oh yeah, her stripping career lasted 2 nights. She made around 3k and has been playing with that and building it up since. Sorry kids only I get to play with her now
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/ne...eply&p=1523401
01-13-2008 , 11:27 PM
Brandon unfortuneatly Ive learned in life that not everyone can be helped. Ive seen many people Ive know my whole life die or go to prison from things that make no sense to most of us normal people. Take care of yourself bro not much else you can do in life
01-13-2008 , 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel View Post
Its absolutely hilarous to read these posts about Brandi. You all constantly speculate and offer conjour with out any idea as to what the truth and reality is. I am probably the only person on here that really truly knows her. In the short time we have known each other, she has done nothng but utterly amaze me. You guys want to bash a young attractive girl, who is naive to a lot of things, as we all were at that age. I know first hand that she is a good person and has a big heart. In the time that I have known her, she has been nothing but honest, loyal, and loving. Im n some famous poker type. I have nothing extravgant to offer other other to treat her well. So you guys continue to trash this beautiful girl without really knowing a thing about her. I sit there and watch her tear up a game, and then its reported she went bust. I see all the lies as they develope because there right in front of my face.
power of the pussy
01-13-2008 , 11:34 PM
this i awesome.

"Google me i'm a celebrity" lol
01-13-2008 , 11:37 PM
"Pacer me I'm a criminal"
01-13-2008 , 11:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pimprexel
Thank you Todd and Mike.

Everything I have stated is 100% truthful and accurate. As I mentioned in my first post things began to unravel about three weeks ago when it became apparent I would not be moving to Los Angeles with her. I realized this finally had to end. I could not give up my family and friends here and move with her and continue to neglect myself in trying to help her.

What I stated in regards to the crime she committed was vague. There is an ongoing investigation now with the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police department, so it obviously limits what I can and should say. While I was away from my home, she sold/stole approximately $40,000 to $50,000 worth of posessions from my home. She was tracked down earlier this morning to a room at commerce casino. So when you see her playing over the next few days (until she loses as she always has), it is with the proceeds from my belongings. I am in the proccess of filing a claim with my insurance company and trying to determine an exact amount. Some of my things can never be replaced. Items that had no monetary vaule and were sentimental to me were thrown out and destroyed.

When I originally met Brandi, she barely had enough personal effects to fit in a closet. A few outfits, a couple of dvd's and some basic kitchen items. No televison, furniture, anything of value. I obviously have receipts for all the large valuable items that were taken but that is basically only for insurance purposes.

Due to some of the contacts that I have in this city, I was able to view her extensive criminal history besides what I was already aware of. I saw every charge, conviction and result. Every strip clubs she ever worked in Las Vegas was listed as well due to sheriff card laws and regulations. There apparently was also other criminal records in the state of California, New York, Texas, and Tennessee basically the same song and dance.

There is much more I can say. Maybe I will. My point of this post though was to tell the truth, not to cause more pain for anyone that is necessary. I am still somewhat in a state of shock as I basically found out the exact state of the situation this morning.

Many of the things I know, I have witnessed and would have no problem explaining if it really served a purpose. However, I am not sure if things I know about second hand or even have witnessed regarding others would be appropriate to disclose i.e sklansky, relationships with other well known pro's, things that she did to earn money during the world series etc. Its not my role or intent to embarass anyone else further.

Its pointless to put a dollar value on this past year. We'll just say the high six figures. Its only money. It can be replaced.

I want everyone to understand, my actions were not due to any lack of self esteem. I have dated attractive girls before that were normal and I will again. I erroneously thought I could make a difference in someones life that maybe never had a chance from the start. She will eventually go back to dancing and prostituting as she has since she was 15 and ran away from home.

I hated how she always thought she was an important celebrity. Many times whether it be a sold out restaurant, hotel or show...she would state to a person of authority " I am a celebrity. You can google me if you'd like " I thought it was sick. And basically that is why I have said what I have, because to Brandi, the way she is thought of and the impression people have of her is paramount to anything else.

This relationship was not based on sex. I live in Las Vegas. If getting laid consistently was my objective, this is obviously not the way I would have gone about things. I tried to save her from herself. From what the inevitable will be



Brandon
if its not about sex and your trying to save someone, then why dont you save a fat ugly girl? plenty of those around.

op, you are so f'n full of **** and everyone in here is an idiot for buying your crap. op, why dont you start a charity fund here for your grief. plenty of suckers in 2+2.
01-13-2008 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Yeah I know peachy. Its all coming out slowly. I think I have said enough.

I dont understand what the point would be commenting on the sexual nature of our relationship. What purpose would that serve any of this?


haha want me to help u out with the rest?!?!?!
01-13-2008 , 11:41 PM
Wtf guys, just come out with all of it, peachy and whoever else, just do it already, what's the point in holding back at this point unless you have contracted herpes from this woman and are too embarrassed to tell your own story.
01-13-2008 , 11:42 PM
I realized when I first posted on here my previous posts would be brought up and thrown in my face. That is fine. I accept that.

I didnt say what I did out of ignorance or to purposely deceit anyone. I was trying to protect her. Yes, she consistently loss playing poker. She would come home in tears crying about it. She got lucky basically in one big tourney. The worse thing that could have happened to her. She has no aptitude for cards as most anyone that has sat at a table with her can attest.

When a human being sits with you day after day crying about the fact she is a laughingstock, pleading with you to be strong enough to help her change, telling me she doesnt want to live like this, attempting suicide in front of you out of sheer shame and embarrassment for her past actions, yeah most decent humans would help.

I dont regret anything I did. I learned alot and will move on. I do not consider myself a sucker because I know what my intent was and I will have no problem sleeping at night or accepting what has happened.

I never ever ever ever used sex as a weapon or tool over her. That is not me. Thats never going to be me. I never pressured her or coerced her. It was not like that.


Brandon
01-13-2008 , 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Im not saying Im broke but I got no real money. She doesnt carry a purse, wallet, anything. So yeah I hold her ID, money, etc. People sit there watching every move as to where she gets her money from. Funny as [censored]. When we were in LA she actually lent met 2k that I needed to play in the main event. So thats what Im saying. This [censored] is so diluted with lies its [censored] ridiculous. I owe her money still and people say Im a [censored] mark!!!! She took me [censored] clothes shopping today and spent $600 because she said I dress like Im still in highschool. Then took me to lunch at Kona Grill. Un****ing real.


Yeah I use to have a drug problem. Lots of cocaine in college and a little heroin once in a while. Been off that for a long time. Sometimes relapse with the pills. I hadnt seen my buddy in a while, and I snorted prob 10 oxys and took lortabs and I got so [censored] up I thought there were storm troopers surrounding my boys house and I lost it and started going crazy trying to defend myself against the [censored] anarchy for christ sake. Then I started screaming that they were spiders all over me!!! Brandi was freaking out crying because I was running around his house with an pitch fork talking crazy [censored]. Thats why I dont do drugs anymore. I apologized to her and I told her I would quit the pills and she said that was the only way she would come back and be with me. So to recap, this girl actually has treated me better than I have treated her...


and I am man of my word. If you people actually opened your ears and hear the truth, I will show pictures from LA that I think are [censored] insanely sick. B doesnt care as long as it wont [censored] up things between us
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...54#post1523554

Goes from "I got no real money" to losing high 6 figures in 10 months? On a pit boss salary? They hiring where you work?
01-13-2008 , 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by peachy
haha want me to help u out with the rest?!?!?!
feel free peachy I think I have said enough for today.
01-13-2008 , 11:46 PM
gogogogogo peachy
01-13-2008 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by peachy
haha want me to help u out with the rest?!?!?!
Please do
01-13-2008 , 11:57 PM
Details on the violence please.
01-13-2008 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
I never ever ever ever used sex as a weapon or tool over her.


Brandon

I believe this. You do however realize that she used it as a tool over you, right?
01-14-2008 , 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by pocketpared
"Pacer me I'm a criminal"
I lol'd
01-14-2008 , 12:03 AM
Wow, what a saint you are, telling the world and a bunch of anonymous internet users all the lurid and private details of someone who confided in you. What a conscience!

      
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