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The Real Truth About Brandi Hawbaker The Real Truth About Brandi Hawbaker

01-14-2008 , 03:53 AM
neekid brandi in 4life imo
01-14-2008 , 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Arnold_O
as long as she has youth and attractiveness on her side she will continue to USE her assets to get whatever she wants.

Of course she can and probably will find more dudes to manipulate. But that doesn't necessarily mean she'll be doing 'well'.
She seems pretty messed up and has some anger and depression and drama issues. Whatever,,, I don't know her nor am I a psychologist.

But her pattern also seems to include not JUST messing up guys and taking their stuff but also having these miserable and dramatic cry-a-thons and the occasional attempted suicide.
Now maybe that's 100% pre-planned to garner even more sympathy. But I do think that some of her truly believes some of the weird lies she tells herself and thus also believes in her own depression and genuiness of feeling like she wants to die.
Again though, I don't know. But she seems just as likely to continue to do more harm to herself as she is to find somebody else to screw over.

I mostly would like for her to clean up her act because I feel bad for the guys who she screws over.
01-14-2008 , 04:05 AM
Just to set the record straight, David is merely mentoring the Billy Goats.
01-14-2008 , 04:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
I realized when I first posted on here my previous posts would be brought up and thrown in my face. That is fine. I accept that.

I didnt say what I did out of ignorance or to purposely deceit anyone. I was trying to protect her. Yes, she consistently loss playing poker. She would come home in tears crying about it. She got lucky basically in one big tourney. The worse thing that could have happened to her. She has no aptitude for cards as most anyone that has sat at a table with her can attest.

When a human being sits with you day after day crying about the fact she is a laughingstock, pleading with you to be strong enough to help her change, telling me she doesnt want to live like this, attempting suicide in front of you out of sheer shame and embarrassment for her past actions, yeah most decent humans would help.

I dont regret anything I did. I learned alot and will move on. I do not consider myself a sucker because I know what my intent was and I will have no problem sleeping at night or accepting what has happened.

I never ever ever ever used sex as a weapon or tool over her. That is not me. Thats never going to be me. I never pressured her or coerced her. It was not like that.


Brandon
Brandon,

I hope things will be better off for you now that you can see clearly. It sounds like you have suffered a lot of pain & I think this series of events would make baby Jebus cry.

Good luck to you- and hopefully 2008 will be a better year for you.
01-14-2008 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
It was posted I believe in the science, math, and philosophy board, It was early August. We were in Los Angeles staying at commerce. Bryan Micon called my cell phone one afternoon after apparently discovering the post. It was a made by a new account. The contents of the post stated how "David was a scumbag for telling Brandi the only way she is going to get by in this world is by having sex with men for money" It berated David as a person. It also went on to talk about a fling Brandi had with a well known pro during the world series while we were broken up. The poster claimed she was a close confidant of Brandi's. Brandi denied writting this at first and attributed it to another 2+2 user. It was eventually determined that the post came from an IP address at the commerce. Brandi again broken down in tears and confessed that she created the account and the post because she wanted the world to know what david said to her. Basically she claims, he stated, the only way she would ever get anywhere in life is by having sex with powerful men that can buy her things and take her to places she wants to go.

I believe her real motive in that post wasnt to discredit David. That was just a added plus. While we were broken up over the summer for a few weeks, she had a basically sexual relationship with a well known pro. It bothered her (she actually stated this to me) that it was never discussed on 2+2 or talked about publicly eventhough many knew it was going on. Im sure someone can jump in here that knows and fill in the blanks.

Im actually giving her what she wants by revealing this. She was always pissed she never got "credit" for sleeping with another famous poker player.
Things now begin to make sense. This was the "slanderous" accusation she made against me? I didn't say those things but I did tell her that guys will stake her if they think they have a chance with her. Even if they think it is negative EV for them. Maybe she thought I was insulting her poker ability with those words.
01-14-2008 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dan Druff
lul

3) Along those same lines, Brandon, why are you holding anything back? If what you say is true, the girl directly stole from you at the end and sold off your stuff for poker money. Why not just spill EVERYTHING about her at this point?

Because from what i read from his posts, he seems to be man with class dan druff, not that you would understand (yes i'm a hater)

pimprexel, sorry to hear all this. It's sad when good people get screwed over in life like that. I hope this all hasn't wound you in a way you will find yourself forced to 'look the other way' next time someone comes by that needs a helping hand, afraid of what might be his or hers intentions. That would be a shame, too few a men these days to come by already take care,
01-14-2008 , 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jwc529

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01-14-2008 , 04:16 AM
thread is severely disapointing to this point (sans the billygoat post)

adanthar hit it right on the head...all those things need to happen
01-14-2008 , 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
While we were broken up over the summer for a few weeks, she had a basically sexual relationship with a well known pro. It bothered her (she actually stated this to me) that it was never discussed on 2+2 or talked about publicly eventhough many knew it was going on. Im sure someone can jump in here that knows and fill in the blanks.

Im actually giving her what she wants by revealing this. She was always pissed she never got "credit" for sleeping with another famous poker player.
Unless it was PA sleeping with poker-pro is no accomplisment, amirite?
01-14-2008 , 04:19 AM


Plus some NSFW Brandi pics (just scroll down a little).
01-14-2008 , 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by gregorio


Plus some NSFW Brandi pics (just scroll down a little).
From that link:

Marital Status: It's rumored that she might be dating or just sleeping with Carlos Mortenson.
01-14-2008 , 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Arnold_O
I hope this hooker-stripper does a year in the Nevada State Prison System for burglary. Don't drop the charges no matter how much she begs and cries, and that's exactly what's going to happen.

I hope the word gets out to as many poker players as possible so that anytime she's playing at a table at least one person will know.

She's a thief.


yes, and possibly bipolar

SKlansky already diagnosed her with "Histrionic Personality Disorder"....

SO NO.
01-14-2008 , 04:38 AM
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Because from what i read from his posts, he seems to be man with class dan druff, not that you would understand (yes i'm a hater)

so he talks about her stealing and selling all this stuff, being a stripper, being a prostitute, getting arrested for this, that and the other thing, big drama cry-a-thons in person and on the phone, manipulating him and other guys, and also trying to kill herself.
But somehow he gets credit for being a 'man with class' because he's respectful of her privacy regarding some OTHER things she probably wouldn't want made public?

I agree with Druff on this one. If Brandon is going to say all that then I don't get the part about being all high and mighty and acting like he's too good a person to mention the 'other' stuff.
01-14-2008 , 04:43 AM
LOL that this thread briefly crashed the 2+2 database a few minutes ago!

My respect for Captain Tom continues to rise!

If the thread last year was to be believed, he actually ended up financially better-off for his dealings with Brandi, as opposed to all others who have been Busto'd by her.

I will give David credit for being break-even for his little Brandi adventure!
01-14-2008 , 05:00 AM
so this the thread that made everything all laggy earlier.. A+
01-14-2008 , 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroBob
so he talks about her stealing and selling all this stuff, being a stripper, being a prostitute, getting arrested for this, that and the other thing, big drama cry-a-thons in person and on the phone, manipulating him and other guys, and also trying to kill herself.
But somehow he gets credit for being a 'man with class' because he's respectful of her privacy regarding some OTHER things she probably wouldn't want made public?

I agree with Druff on this one. If Brandon is going to say all that then I don't get the part about being all high and mighty and acting like he's too good a person to mention the 'other' stuff.
Hi Microbob,

Although it is hard to dissect each seperate point in a vacuum and drawing the line within them, it looks to me this info is necessary to give a walkthrough of his past year and give the post its body to meet the goal of being a 'shoutout' and other more personal motives. To go up each sideally though and spill every little detail would only serve a purpose of 'revenge'. I taste anger in his post, not revenge. And imo it takes a certain amount of character to not be led from the one in the other. I commend him for that.

I hope this all is readable, english isn't my native language ,
01-14-2008 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by robracing
LOL that this thread briefly crashed the 2+2 database a few minutes ago!
Pretty sure that was a backup yo...

This thread doesn't have anywhere near the activity of things like the initial ZJ thread in MTT or some of the AP threads in BBV. (some of the more active ones that I remember).
01-14-2008 , 05:05 AM
01-14-2008 , 05:09 AM
A few weeks ago I was in a gas station getting a few things and paying for gas, and there was this girl just standing at the counter playing scratchers. She said, "I'm having fun" (I didn't believe that) and moved aside a little so I could pay, meanwhile still scratching. When I drove out she was still there. At the time I regretted not hitting on her because a) she was hot and b) I had some vague notion of rescuing her from degeneracy.

Now I'm glad I didn't.
01-14-2008 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
Things now begin to make sense. This was the "slanderous" accusation she made against me? I didn't say those things but I did tell her that guys will stake her if they think they have a chance with her. Even if they think it is negative EV for them. Maybe she thought I was insulting her poker ability with those words.

nah, she, like any attractive woman, figures out by the age of 10 that they can manipulate men with looks and sex appeal. she just dissing you because that's what these whacko chicks do.

remember, rule #1 of a borderline chick is that she can not maintain relationships, each and every one must be sabotaged.
01-14-2008 , 05:25 AM
pimprexel


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Originally Posted by El Diablo
pimpr,

I'm sure others are as curious as I am about something that a couple of people have mentioned already. What was the path in the last year that took you from busto working stiff pit boss to guy who blew $500k+ on Brandi?

Bump. This part of your story doesn't add up.
01-14-2008 , 05:26 AM
Also, Carlos Mortensen seems to be the overwhelming favorite for which pro she was sleeping with.
01-14-2008 , 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by pimprexel
Basically she claims, he stated, the only way she would ever get anywhere in life is by having sex with powerful men that can buy her things and take her to places she wants to go.
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While we were broken up over the summer for a few weeks, she had a basically sexual relationship with a well known pro.
I can see why she'd be affronted by Sklansky's suggestion. How would anyone think she'd behave in such a manner?

Other missing info:

- The Steve Z. connection: Was he the original proposer of anal for buy-ins?
- How did she earn money during the WSOP?
- Given Brandon's claims that she was a hooker with a long arrest record by the time they met, is there any real possibility that Captain Tom's penis never got any further than just her back?
- Where was Brandi when Grimstarr's money was robbed? Was Carlos Mortensen acting as Brandi's Mexican grinder confederate in this scam?
01-14-2008 , 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Riina
Because from what i read from his posts, he seems to be man with class dan druff, not that you would understand (yes i'm a hater)

pimprexel, sorry to hear all this. It's sad when good people get screwed over in life like that. I hope this all hasn't wound you in a way you will find yourself forced to 'look the other way' next time someone comes by that needs a helping hand, afraid of what might be his or hers intentions. That would be a shame, too few a men these days to come by already take care,
Why are you being a "hater"? It seems like you don't even know me.

In any case, MicroBob made my point pretty well. I was saying that, while I normally am TOTALLY against airing of relationship dirty laundry, if the other person has committed criminal acts against you, their right to privacy obviously vanishes.

After I made my initial post about this (asking Brandon why he wasn't revealing the "hidden" details), he responded and I understood where he was coming from a lot better.

Basically, here's the deal:

Brandon posted everything about Brandi that was just about Brandi.

However, he knows some other dirt that, while more revealing about Brandi, also exposes private details about other people she may have had involvement with. David Sklansky is an excellent example here. Brandi shared a bunch of dirt about Sklansky with Brandon. Brandon wants to post that dirt, but at the same time, has enough respect for Sklansky NOT to post it unless he says it's okay.

Some of you seem to believe that Sklansky has given Brandon the "green light" to post everything. That's not true. Sklansky only gave him the green light to post what he witnessed himself or KNOWS to be true -- not to repeat gossip that Brandi told him.

Here's a good (but completely made up) example.

Say that Brandi told Brandon that, in July of 2007, Phil Ivey gave her a Bellagio flag in exchange for a night of nasty sex. Say that Brandi also told Brandon that Phil had impotence issues and had to pop Viagras to perform. While this story would serve to further expose Brandi as a poker whore, it would also start a rumor (whether true or untrue) that Phil Ivey can't get it up. And that wouldn't be fair to Phil Ivey. So Brandon wouldn't post such a thing NOT to protect Brandi, but to avoid starting rumors about Ivey.

And, of course, it goes without saying that I made up the entire paragraph above, and I have no knowledge of Phil Ivey's ability to perform. Can't be too careful these days, given all the poker pros who keep threatening to sue me.
01-14-2008 , 05:52 AM
Name of "well-known pro" she dated in the summer?

      
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