is there any more info or evidence of this (aside from your own word under your gimmick account)?

because most high stakes poker players don't air their **** on twitter and 2p2, which is one of the major issues with how prah handled this, it's a definite major breach of expected behavior by those as high profile as he is to have gone about this so publicly with so little evidence.

FatalError you seemed to do exactly this here.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/61...ccount-983487/

Cliffs: Isaac Haxton has never played on any of my accounts. I have never played on any of his accounts. While I did some things I'm not proud of when I was 19, I was given a second chance and take that very seriously. I have not done anything unethical in poker in 5+ years now.



TL;DR: It's such a shame. Up until earlier today I had a lot of respect for Prahlad. I am currently in San Francisco on vacation with my girlfriend, and was not happy when I heard Prah was tweeting baseless accusations about myself and Ike.

Ike talks a lot about the very strict HU ethics he practices. He could make a lot of money making new screen names on FTP and playing people that refuse to play him. It's against the rules, and against the high stakes communities' code of ethics, so he doesn't do it. This is very honorable.

For me personally, ever since my second chance I have been extremely paranoid about making any kind of mistake. I won't even let friends fold for me while I'm in the bathroom. Those that know me IRL will attest that I have not done anything remotely shady in 5+ years. I hold myself to a very high ethical standard. I am unbelievably lucky to have been given a second chance, and I'm not going to squander that. Needless to say, I don't take these accusations Prah has been throwing around lightly.

As I imagine PTR, HSDB etc. would show, Ike and I have both played Prah on FTP and Stars. We have played quite a bit, and until recently I had no idea he suspected us of sharing accounts. As I said above, we have always stuck to our own accounts.

To the best of my knowledge, all three sites in question (Stars, FTP, Cereus) acknowledge that there is no one player to a hand rule online. Prah however isn't accusing us of talking strategy, ghosting, or coaching. He is accusing us of outright cheating and account sharing. This is so absurdly ridiculous. He has absolutely no proof of this. I shouldn't have to say this, but I will go one step further just for the sake of clearing up any ambiguity: Ike and I both find it distracting and harmful to play with other people in the room. If Ike has been around me while playing Prah, or vice versa, it has been for less than 1% of hands played vs him. We have both played on our own vs Prah over a very large sample size.

To Prah I issue a live battleship-style HU challenge. 3+ tables, minimum stakes 25/50. If you agree to play 10,000+ hands of 50/100, I will personally fly to LA to play you in person. If that number is too large, I offer you a few other options. You are welcome to stay in my apartment in Las Vegas (guest master bedroom, all yours) if it means you will play me HU. Naturally that is a lot to ask, so instead you could have a mutually trusted friend sweat the match from my apartment. Perhaps a UB pro like Sebok? I imagine he'd be happy to do this for the publicity it would bring Poker Road. If for some reason you don't trust him, or he can't sweat the match, I'm sure we can come up with a mutually trusted overseer/arbitrator. Who knows which sites you think are crooked, and which ones aren't, so you can personally pick the site we play on. We can even add in a 200k stop-loss or something if that would make you feel more comfortable.

As for the UB account accusations, I have a few things to say. First of all, if Prah actually did know the true owner of the account, it would be extremely unprofessional and a violation of customers' expectation of privacy for him to out another player's identity. If this were shown to be the case, it would be clearly unnaccaptebal on not only Prah's behalf, but also on UB's. Even if we give him the benefit of the doubt and say he came to this conclusion on his own, there are still quite a few problems with his behavior. A) He has no proof. B) He has not explored any reasonable alternative (similar styles of play, legally having an account on AP, and UB, etc.) C) He has done virtually no research before throwing accusations of cheating and perhaps most ridiculously of all D) He is first sharing this information to the world via lol-twitter. As for the side accusation of Isaac playing Prahlad against his will: Isaac has the right to anonymity so long as he follows the site's ToS. There would be nothing wrong with this behavior IMHO.



So here is where we are now: Prahlad Friedman has publicly slandered both myself and Isaac Haxton. Clearly he thinks I'm a terrible poker player that needs Isaac's help to beat him. Above I have issued a challenge. Prahlad must either accept this challenge, or give both of us a public apology. I swear I will go very far out of my way to assure Prahlad that no one is assisting my play. We can play under his terms, and his conditions; whatever makes him feel comfortable (within reason of course).

I do not plan on responding to specific questions in this thread. For obvious reasons I would find it quite disadvantageous to have to outline how Isaac and I play, and how to tell us apart. I have already given a lot more information in this post than I feel I should ever need to. Furthermore, I am currently on vacation with my girlfriend and plan on enjoying it. However, if Prah decides to take me up on my offer, I promise to make myself available in a very short period of time.

-Thank you very much to those that have realized Prah has absolutely no basis for these accusations. Your faith in me truly means a lot to me.

ZeeJustin #WINNING

well said

That part is hilarious, ike should hire some homeless guys he would coach to play vs pra.

Does Prahlad Friedman have/regularly post on a 2+2 account?

Good post apart from the oxymoron.
On another point - how do you feel about the treatment JJ Prodigy?

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but if Friedman understood Haxton's game as well as he's implying wouldn't that give him an edge and wouldn't he want to play him?

Prahlad is a douche. It sounds like he's ranting, but even if he were being cheated I would enjoy it. At the worst, this whole issue is a wash for me.

u cant just make such serious allegations against someone without some sort of concrete evidence. got any information you would like to share to substantiate such claims?

Im kinda surprised that ike and justin didnt respond sooner. I can understand if justin is on vacation atm, but ike should prob respond too. Like there is a <1% chance he hasnt heard about this now right?

posted by prahlad on twitter

If Prah gets account related information from UB, that would be the real scandal here.