Can we make a "I hate the PPA" thread or something so people can post this stuff there rather than derail a thread about getting US players paid back in a timely fashion?

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Are you not ashamed that you've not done anything to advocate for the game but are attacking those who are? I know I'd be.

listen we can argue back and forth on how influential the PPA has been in the efforts thus far - I don't think they've had much impact, you do......I don't think your two points hold much water.

Are you doing this for free? Where can I find some information about the PPA's financials?

How do you know he hasn't done anything? Are you saying that supporting the PPA is the only conceivable way to "advocate for the game"?

You get paid to do what you do - if you were making 0 dollars a year doing this, you would never do it! Yeah its a non profit, but clearly the people working for the PPA must receive payment for their work....Furthermore its good for your career if you wish to continue working in this field. Who knows what the financials of the PPA are - hopefully they aren't paying exorbitant amounts of money to the top guys.

No, they posted the thread and they are open to criticism. They have to get involved in some way with the FTP thing or it just looks silly for them. They can't sit back and take donations and not stick their nose in the tent from time to time. They have to justify their paychecks weather they are helping or not.

You can just look at the amount of money they have spent lobbying in DC to know they've had an impact (hint: it is a large amount of $).

The people that think the PPA hasn't done anything because poker is banned and the govt F'd us are missing the point. It is entirely possible to have a huge impact without achieving the big wins (yet).

It is just a plain fact that the PPA has spent millions of dollars and thousands of hours being our advocates in DC. For you dimwits to sit at home, too lazy to send out prefilled tweets, and proclaim that the PPA has done nothing while they are working their asses off fighting for us is infuriating.

You could search these forums. That information has been posted numerous times on 2+2.

TE has been paid for about 1 year of the 6 years he's been doing this, so this is way, way off base. His field was professional limit poker player until Black Friday hit. Im pretty sure he aint getting rich on this job and would much, much rather go back to doing his old career and volunteering on the side for many, many hours.

This is really, really out of line.

EDIT: To put it another way, he's really dumb if he's doing it for the money because he's probably been paid the massive sum of like $6 an hour for time spent. If that.

Wat?

So any thread anyone from the PPA starts should be open to criticism, even if it's completely off topic by your logic... Which would be the whole point of having it contained all in one place, rather than getting in the way of people, like me, that want to see what comes of this letter to the DOJ.

How do "show me what the PPA has done for poker" arguments have anything to do with a letter to the DOJ outlining a reasonable process for return of player balances?

The lack of understanding of government and the world in general is frustrating. As players we all care about poker a great day. Furthermore, we know poker is a game of skill. In the world at large people don't care about the players or the game. We are lucky that government is starting to see poker as a source of revenue.

Yes the PPA has been pushing for a poker Bill, and no it has not gone as fast as we all would like but it really is an up hill fight. From what I can tell the PPA has a lot of simply educating the public about poker related issues Keep Fighting, PPA!

You're making yourself look silly.