The Portuguese Poker Prodigy José “Girah” Macedo Scammed HSNL players for >$30,000 HSNL xpost - Page 11 - Poker News

Ziplok · 08-07-2011, 02:55 AM

the kids a straight up sociopath, plain and simple. He has no remorse other than he got caught, I hope nobody feels an ounce of sympathy for him or believes a word of his ridiculous apology. Just disgusting. I hope the people that have said 'good for you for paying them back' and 'people make mistakes' think this through a bit. He was scamming people that trusted him a great deal, he came clean AFTER he was busted and clearly this is all nothing more than damage control. As others have said, he's Russ Hamilton light and in some cases its even worse as he tricked people who placed their trust in him.

trust_no1_poker · 08-07-2011, 02:58 AM

Something has been dodgy ever since the first time Jose was ever heard of, he is a scumbag and i dont think he is alone in this scam/s he will have accomplices, i think this thread is probably only be the start of something bigger. Anybody who vouched for this serial cheat is maybe/probably a cheat also or in on it with him eg. jungleman etc.

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Originally Posted by kjemmy

I was one of the players in the strategy chat we made with Jose, Moss and a few other HSNL HU players. Jose came clean after suspicions from Moss, TooCurious and other HSNL-players; what has been writen is unfortunately true, but so far it's been handled well by the players and, as mentioned, Jose is paying all the money back as well as compensation.

-Henrik

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Originally Posted by imfromsweden

Unfortunally I am also going to have to confirm all this. It would seem I never learn.

Funny how you seem too always be involved in scams (just the ones we know about).

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Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD

We never imagined that Jose could do something like this. Suffice it to say that Jungle and I will be changing our plans and will no longer be living in Portugal with him.

This has to be some kind of multi-accounting/sharing HH's at the very least. Would seem you all got rumbled just before you/your gang pulled off the big one !!

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Originally Posted by sauce123

I was shocked when Kjemmy brought this to my attention and could barely believe it.

I have (informally) coached/chatted with Jose for over year now since he somehow got my skype and showed he had a sharp poker mind. I did this because I admired his drive to improve and he seemed like a nice kid who could go far in poker. Jose offered me large sums of money for private coaching which i refused in order to talk strat/general bull**** over skype for free. I have repeatedly vouched for him on 2p2 as well.

Kjemmy brought these suspicions to my attention which I dismissed as circumstantial (until IP addresses were confirmed or Jose confessed) because I felt that the scam was so flagrantly unethical and poorly conceived that I couldn't imagine Jose or anyone rational doing it. That same day, Jose advised me on skype chat to put money on ipoker and play "this aggrofish sauron1989 at 50/100" and I still was not convinced he was scamming.

I suppose the only constructive thing that can come from writing this post is that I want to advise other poker players to be extremely, extremely wary of others' intentions, especially when so many interactions occur online. There are many incredibly honest people in poker who have fostered a climate where deals totaling thousands or millions of dollars are brokered on people's word alone, usually without incident. We have to both be more careful about trusting other people these days and we also have to make sure people who behave like Jose are barred from the poker community by any non-violent means possible.

Their all ariving fast ITT. Dont really believe what your trying to sell us here, especially the bold bit. Seems to me that now Jose is found out, then you/your gang will now use him as a scape goat.

Only read up to page 5. In b4 page 1000.
in b4 more confessions ITT.

useless · 08-07-2011, 03:03 AM

I'd be embarrassed to post this if I were the OP.

arkstfan · 08-07-2011, 03:03 AM

just wow...i wouldn't believe it if it wasn't right in front of me. how anyone with enough intuition to beat hsnl would believe for one second they could get away with this is mind boggling. why anyone who can beat hsnl would actually try this is a whole new level of stupidity.

stevdoro · 08-07-2011, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by therealwinner

I must also say that this should have been kept private 100% jose says he was scammed for big money but he keeps very dignified about things and to my knowledge has never released details this should not have been made public OP maybe hurt buy this was just spiteful revenge

GTFO

Shaise · 08-07-2011, 03:11 AM

too bad you got caught bro, good thing you bought you way out of that - but big mistake admitting it . Never ever admit it . Look I fixed your post

Click here before starting to read the post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XecW-4v-5zo

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I'm going to be taking a break for a while. There is no right or wrong way to say any of this, so I'm just going to say what happened.

A while ago, I did something stupid. A friend of mine, who I introduced to poker, made a suggestion to me which was, I'm not going to sugar coat it, cheating. My mom was not being faithful to my father in the most obscene ways and he had the photos to prove it. He told me I had to pay up or else he'll expose it all in the worst places - my school's locker room.
But in this dilemma I had no other choice than do what the bad friend asked, and defend my mom's apparent monogamy.
I'm sorry friends, I'm sorry students ... it's a tough life and sometimes we just have to choose the lesser evil. I don't know if any of your good friends did your moms but just imagine that for a few seconds ... and try pleaaaaase to understand me.
I pray u forgive me I wish you all the best or how we say it in my country vê-lo otários

chinz · 08-07-2011, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by miguelanjelo

but why the "sauron1989" account is only up $5,626 according to PTR? the OP said it was for 30k..

I haven't played much NL at iPoker recently, but at least a year ago their datamining for iPoker was really poor (way worse than for PokerStars). I remember playing ~8k hands of NLHU on one account and less than 3k of those hands were tracked. I think around 30-35% of the hands were tracked during that time.

+ obviously he could just have lost some money on that account when not superusing.

Brasil · 08-07-2011, 03:13 AM

I'm going to vouch for the sake of dispute;

The logic just doesn't add up suppose Girah was completely busto I'm sure he could find a backer even a disclosed one from public view to prevent humiliation.

Thief/Con; An honest man can not be conned

How is having a HU genius passing you tips while in a game morally righteous?

Would this kind of behavior be accepted in a B&M? High limit whales are all scarred money now.

He is presumed poker genius but still a boy which could have easily been manipulated.

The man gets "outted" and still pays out 30k and it's accepted?

Money is where the truth lays follow the money and find the truth+

DrewPeacock · 08-07-2011, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by quid pro quo

kinda interested who his backer was that played on his account

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Originally Posted by trust_no1_poker

This has to be some kind of multi-accounting

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Reeder · 08-07-2011, 03:20 AM

- He did not roll up his bankroll from $30 to $2,000,000 in 2 years... He made is HEM look like he did... he is just some random grinder like many other hundreds... There is no way he would need to scum other players to make money if he were that good!
- He was never scammed for $250,000... no-one who is scammed and has a bit of heart would scum after being scammed
- Dogishead and Jungleman are obviously acting behind him (writing for him and playing for him). They will lose the respect of the poker community for that
- He is part of a bigger plan of which we will never know all the details
- He will be renamed Jose' "Cheater" Macedo
- No one will trust him anymore, nor as a coach, nor as a friend.
- He won't be able to get a sponsorship anymore
- He will be marked (at least in the poker community) as a cheat for the rest of his life
- He is just pathetic when he apologizes , especially the part where his mum's face changes from proud to disappointed. He is always pointing out that he is young and naive but these are no excuses. Someone who did what he did is just vile.
- One scam (multiaccounting Lock Pocker) could have been accepted, but scumming a second time, and this time people who trusted him, will never be forgotten nor forgiven
- I don't think we will hear his name anymore and THE BEST THING WE CAN DO IS NOT TALK ABOUT HIM ANYMORE

If I were him I would just quit poker and disappear forever.

Pappi · 08-07-2011, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by girah

A while ago, I did something stupid. A friend of mine, who I introduced to poker, made a suggestion to me which was, I'm not going to sugar coat it, cheating. I had introduced this friend to poker and he was losing money, badly. He asked to play some of my poker friends and said why don't you sweat them and we'll see their hands. I don't know why I agreed. I don't know why I did it. I guess it was a mixture of guilt and stupidity and feeling ****ty for getting him involved in something which seemed to be bad for him.

Obv you staked your buddy too, your not that innocent

stevdoro · 08-07-2011, 03:27 AM

in B4 Lock Poker rep.

Reeder · 08-07-2011, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DOG IS HEAD

We never imagined that Jose could do something like this. Suffice it to say that Jungle and I will be changing our plans and will no longer be living in Portugal with him.

LOL
You're trying to dissociate yourself from the guy after having vouched for him publicly and after being on the verge of going to Lisbon to live with him?
You also admitted you were writing his blogs and posts...
For all we know, you guys are part of the same gang!

Brasil · 08-07-2011, 03:32 AM

An honest man can not be conned

nsmills83 · 08-07-2011, 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 1outter

Cheaters gonna cheat. Life-ban + life-no-respect.

Even if a rapist feels bad for what he did, he still ****ed your daughter.

Hide ya kids, Hide ya wife!