multi-entry is the worst thing that could happen to the MTT economy, suspension of disbelief is what poker thrives upon... the fact that big-field MTTs never normally have 6-7 strong regs per table playing quickly and efficiently is what keeps MTTs fun for fish and therefore soft for everyone.

during multi-entry weeks the entire FTs of virtually every tourney from $26 up to 100r were good regs. $75 mtts had tougher FTs than the 100r normally does...

people trying to champion multi-entry are overlooking the big picture, let's not jeopardise people thinking they are better than they are (this goes for breakeven type regs, small losers, and small winners also) just to have the occasional fun and super degen week for those people at the top of the food chain.

the whole point is for everyone to think they are a little better than they are, multientry forces people to either move down hugely in stakes, or get owned over and over and by the end of the week 95% of the field want to curl up in a little ball and cry

Hi all,

Just wanted a yes or no answer to the above question. I hated them, enough said imo.

Thanks for your responses, at least we will see if the community as a whole would like these or not.

It is one of the features that differentiates FTP from Stars. The worst thing that Stars could do is turn FTP into a twin of Stars.

+ they save you time and are a way of getting more Poker in less time

So you all want to play the Sunday Major at $215 x4, or x6 or x8 multi-entry Don't you think there is enough variance with just one entry each and with 6000+ players?

This only costs us a lot more money as players in the long run, the only way it's going to pay off, is that if you can take your 6 or 8 entries into the MTT into a final table or better position with one of your entries to get lucky, then you can profit.

But If you buy in max, and only min cash or go half deep you will lose money each and everytime. I do not think they are good, and I wont play them anyways, I did play them once and they were just a waste imo.

Have a nice day, and yes the title needs to be changed to Multi-Entry MTT. Sorry

There were a hell of a lot of features that FTP had that were different than PokerStars long b4 the introduced these Multi Entry MTT. I think they were brought in for different reasons, and not that players were asking for this format, we could already multitable MTT just different ones.

I could agree that they could be kept in a smaller fashion, but RUSH SNG/MTT and On Demand MTT is just some other difference than Stars. So yes they should keep all what is FTP different from Stars I agree.

But they should not have them for any of the major mtt's they have, eg like Stars has the Big's and the Hot's , FTP should make these Multi Entry MTT into a daily schedule instead of every daily mtt they have.

Anyway I thought there might be a need for a poll as I am a MTT'er and I think they are not good as a whole in many different ways.

Thanks for time.

Multi Entry MTTs in no way save you time. Rush MTT and OnDemand SNG yes. Not Multi Entry MTT tho. sorry just caught your + part of post lol.

So you don't like them because you personally didn't have any success in them? They're a unique type of tournament and I really like the idea, even if I don't really play them. It's just another unique game type that some people may enjoy that other variants.

They only did multi entry to make quick money imo. That said, they were pretty cool.

Yes I agree to keep it now, but just in a way lower format, like Stars have with there daily Big and Hot Style MTT's and then on sunday the MET will be the Big MET's with bigger prize pools etc.

But I do not like that they started to make every big MTT into a Multi Entry MTT, It was BS imo.

And yes I did win with them, but usually you can only go deep on one entry and if you do have two or more the stack gets combined which is not bad but it is and was unlikely. I think I won 1.9k in a Multi Entry MTT, cant remember which one I'll look it up.

But as a whole I don't think that every big/major daily/weekend MTT they have be a Multi-Entry. IMO . Starting to feel sorry for opening this thread.

They do save you time. Here's why: if you don't have all day to play MTTs you can enter 1 tourney 4x (instead of having to wait for 4 tournies 1x) and give yourself a much greater chance of running deep.

-They create larger guarantees and prize pools
-it gives players more choice and flexibility on how they approach a tourney which creates value for players
-Fish seem to love them (I can't tell you how many times I've seen players bust all 4 of their entries pre-money)

If you don't have the bankroll for 215x4 then you have to move down in stakes or only enter 1x. Why do you care if someone enters 4x anyway? From your perspective this is the same as 4 players entering 1x each.

I think they should or at least be very limited with it.

MTTs are the only form of poker online that have a built in mechanism to combat multitabling to some extent. Allowing 6 entries destroys that mechanism and MTTs start looking like Cash or SNGs.

The fact you can only enter each tournament once is in the top 2 reasons why MTTs are and have always been softer than cash or SNGs.

When so your chips get combined in these tournys?

i like multi-entry.. but it doesnt do much for the little guy. they get expensive fast..

i just hope.. i know it sounds sad but kiss my ass.. that 3.30's come back. they were cash cows for me.

Wouldn't it make tournies so much harder to beat, as rec players will buy in less times on average, and regs will take the maxiumum number of entries possible.

I don't see why they shouldn't be kept as a gimmic though. Well I don't play tournies, so I don't actually care very much.

i voted to scrap them, but on reflection theres no harm in them at very small stakes

eg a 1r MET would be a pretty cool/fun/gimmicky mtt.

i am deadly opposed to any sunday majors/big dailies/ftops events being METs.

I did not mind then except the combine of your money if you final tabled. if you made final table sitting 1 and 3 they combine your amounts (giving you a lot more in 1st) but pay you 9th. This in my mind was not really fair as you had a shot to win a lot more money.You were guaranteed 9th just by busting out. JMO

ME tourneys are great for people who are looking for a specific type of tournament. So when you see that deep stack PLO $22 tourney at a time that you're available to play, you can actually play more than one of them.

Just make *some* MTTs multi entry and others not multi-entry. Problem solved.

I also voted to scrap them, but frankly don't care if they exist at micro to small stakes (i.e. $20 buy-in or lower).

Hmmmmm

Im not sure

15k+ first prizes for $26 games at multiple times every day

Multi Entrys were amazing if you were good at MTTs.

God damn it, SwoopAE!

You're a god damn genius! This is the most outstanding answer I have ever heard! You must have an IQ of 160. You are god damn gifted Mr SwoopAE

Don't scrap this characteristic format. Probability multiple entry is a little bit EV- when merge chips (force eliminate from final-table 9th place) but a It's OK. Similar re-buy tournament.

Other thing, other poker networks don't implements this format tournament includes PokerStars. It's a good reason the Stars/FTP parallel running. I hope keep it.

any tourney format anyone wants to play should be offered imo. I always found the cashout tourneys stupid too, but didn't mind them. I don't mind ME tourneys either, but I do mind when these REPLACE others.

Offer them in addition to the standard tourneys, but leave all the guarantees and major tourneys single entry.
If they really, really get that popular, people will demand having more of them/ getting a bigger ME tourney. Let them grow naturally, don't force us to play them.

Until then please just as an addition, not a substitude.

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