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Everyone on this forum is so dismissive and sarcastic.

I've played every site since IRC poker. Pokerstars was the first to have 50% PSKO. It's a fact. It's also a fact you can patent game types. I have no idea what OP owns, but it's possible they have a legitimate claim. Nobody has asked for proof. The letter tone reads like they don't have any protections.

It's also a fact that Stars violated the pending Rush patent with Zoom. They hesitated to launch it until they did the math on litigation.

Stars, even when owned by the Scheinbergs, have a rather undesirable record with legal proceedings. Just ask Mikael Thuritz how they shield themselves and avoid liability. Chad Brown can play for his wife and get someone DQ'd, but Thuritz can't get staked.

It is possible to patent games in the US - it is NOT possible to do so in the EU (including the UK). Last time I looked the US was not served by Pokerstars.

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08-19-2017 , 06:37 PM

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PeteBlow

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Originally Posted by Richas

It is possible to patent games in the US - it is NOT possible to do so in the EU (including the UK). Last time I looked the US was not served by Pokerstars.

It must've been a while since you last looked.

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08-19-2017 , 06:41 PM

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pmarrsouth

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Originally Posted by Richas

Last time I looked the US was not served by Pokerstars.

RIP PokerStarsNJ I guess

I am impressed that he has played on ~300 poker sites in over 20 years though

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08-20-2017 , 06:57 AM

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Mike Haven

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https://www.inc.com/jeff-haden/paten...ing-ideas.html

"People come to us with brilliant ideas worth millions of dollars... but they shoot themselves in the foot because their patent application isn't worth the paper it was written on. If you have a product worth protecting, it's also worth hiring a competent patent attorney to write and file the patent applications."

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08-20-2017 , 07:07 AM

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epcfast

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I'm still living large on my camera phone payments

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08-20-2017 , 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Richas

It is possible to patent games in the US - it is NOT possible to do so in the EU (including the UK). Last time I looked the US was not served by Pokerstars.

Maybe I missed a change in the laws (google isn't helping on a quick search) but patenting games (in the UK at least) has always been a possibility :/

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08-20-2017 , 07:25 AM

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super_dave31

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^^ haha

OP the one rule of a great idea is you don't tell anyone... let alone go straight to one of the biggest companies and tell them EVERYTHING. Also they will never 'reward' you as legally that would be an acknowledgment that they stole your idea.

Finally... even if it was patented, you can actually completely copy someone's idea so long as it works in a different way to their patent (but achieves exactly the same thing). So sorry OP you don't have a leg to stand on and need to forget about it now

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08-20-2017 , 07:54 AM

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Just as well because I took a bath on cat wigs

and don't even mention the umbrella tie

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08-20-2017 , 09:00 AM

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A_Schupick

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Originally Posted by AKyouwin

Yes they were. Progressive KO or Bounty Hunters was a thing a long time before 2014.

You've been told a few times now that you are wrong, but yet you keep arguing. It wasn't your idea.

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08-20-2017 , 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pasovita.anton

When I proposed this new kind of game progressive KO, I did not ask for money ... Just mentioned that it would not hurt to give a reward if they start up! Have launched!

You didnt even make it a point to get paid lol. 1 thing is for certain though, you didnt handle this like a business man.

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08-20-2017 , 10:05 AM

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gregorio

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Originally Posted by AKyouwin

Sky Poker, a UK only site, has had 75%PKO since 2011, possibly earlier.

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Originally Posted by pasovita.anton

PokerStars was the first, and even announced it officially!

Here's a post from a June 2014 thread, "View: I think Progressive Super KO's in Live Events are doable," that also claims that Sky Poker had these a few years before Poker Stars did. Is he wrong too?

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Pretty positive Sky Poker did it live a few years ago and have never done it again, which I guess mean it's an absolute pain in the ass to administer.

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08-20-2017 , 10:13 AM

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26sk8er

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I suggested big, biggers and biggest promotion, they ran it very successfully and never acknowledged me for it, now they don't run it cause their aim is to kill mitts and make everyone play spins

Last edited by 26sk8er; 08-20-2017 at 10:14 AM. Reason: The first series was approx 3 months after I posted it in the 2p2 thread

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08-20-2017 , 07:29 PM

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ATrainBoston

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Years ago I actually suggested the idea of synchronized breaks for online MTTs on another forum with 5 in their name. And to this day, there was never any thanks, let alone a statue or plaque in my honor.

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08-20-2017 , 07:51 PM

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Kelvis

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Originally Posted by pasovita.anton

When I proposed this new kind of game progressive KO, I did not ask for money ...

You didn't ask for money and my goodness they did what? NOT PAY YOU? Those mother****ers.

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08-20-2017 , 10:02 PM

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DCJ001

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

You didn't ask for money and my goodness they did what? NOT PAY YOU? Those mother****ers.

I did not ask PokerStars for money, and they did not pay me anything either!

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08-21-2017 , 07:08 AM

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Onlythenuzt

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When I was 3 I had a dream/nightmare about a war in the stars in a far away galaxy. I was in it and could even walk in the sky. I told my mother who told a friend who had connections in Hollywood.

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08-21-2017 , 07:36 AM

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When I was 3 I had a dream/nightmare about a war in the stars in a far away galaxy. I was in it and could even walk in the sky. I told my mother who told a friend who had connections in Hollywood.

And then they created Star Trek?

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08-21-2017 , 08:31 AM

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I hereby want to express my gratitude for all the relief you brought to my life by drastically increasing my fapping time. hats off to you, sir!

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08-21-2017 , 09:49 AM

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pasovita.anton

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Originally Posted by Onlythenuzt

When I was 3 I had a dream/nightmare about a war in the stars in a far away galaxy. I was in it and could even walk in the sky. I told my mother who told a friend who had connections in Hollywood.

To the psychiatrist did not try to walk ?!

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08-21-2017 , 10:28 AM

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madlex

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To the psychiatrist did not try to walk ?!

I have no idea what that means, but it sounds hilarious. Is that some Russian saying put into google translate?

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08-21-2017 , 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s

Back in 1978 when I saw "SUPERMAN," I told everyone that I thought "BATMAN" would make a much better movie. "There could be a bunch of them," I said. "With all the great villains like The Penguin, Catwoman and the Joker, you could make a whole series."

Obviously I'm owed Million$$$.

Jokes on you! Batman has been around since 1939.

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08-21-2017 , 12:28 PM

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dhubermex

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Originally Posted by Kelvis

And then they created Star Trek?

Use The Force, Frodo.

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08-21-2017 , 01:38 PM

#48

sixfour

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Fairly certain I played these on Crypto which surely went busto way before Stars offered these

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08-21-2017 , 02:28 PM

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Gzesh

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Originally Posted by Richas

It is possible to patent games in the US - it is NOT possible to do so in the EU (including the UK). Last time I looked the US was not served by Pokerstars.

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/2...o-166004.shtml

Is a US game patent enforceable in the EU against infringement by an EU person ?

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08-22-2017 , 04:17 AM

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Richas

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Originally Posted by hedgecock

Maybe I missed a change in the laws (google isn't helping on a quick search) but patenting games (in the UK at least) has always been a possibility :/

You are missing it - can't be done.

Now you can try and find a UK/EU patent granted on a game, just 1 is proof, but you can't find one for a reason.

You can find copyright and brand protection but that ain't the same.

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