Is there any official accountability that all the prize pool funds are eventually paid out in these and standard spins? Seems like an easy way to mask siphoning of the prize pool above and beyond the rake.

If a supersmart player like Phil Hellmuth would jump all over that option, Amaya would be stupid not to offer it.

yeah i used to deal blackjack and 90% of players would take even money/insurance

even when you as a dealer tell them it's bad they just get annoyed by you calling them out for their stupidity lol

This is up to the regulators who have to approve and monitor the games. Given that PokerStars has to account for their segregated funds daily and deal with multiple regulators the chance they are somehow siphoning off money is pretty pretty small. If you don't trust multiple regulators to keep them honest then there is always math and statistical samping that would easily uncover any problems. The effort required would be trivial compared to the analysis that went in to uncovering the UB superuser scam. This line of thinking is straight up riggy paranoia.

As for the people saying the play is super soft and therefore beatable. All new games start out super soft, remember what zoom or even spin's were like the first couple of weeks? Everyone gives the new game a try, the worst players lose consistently and finally give up, the better players quickly figure out a near optimal strategy and eventually you reach an equilibrium condition. The only possible equilibrium for this format is everyone loses except PokerStars and it becomes a -EV slot machine for the players. Anyone thinking they can beat this long term is delusional.

Inb4 Stars says what a huge success these are because so many people here are trying out $1 ones to see/prove what a joke of an unbeatable rake trap they are. And then introduces more of them because of that. Sounds about right.

Is it going to get a massive amount of recreational players?

Wait, what? 0 prizepool?

Myself and other high-stakes regs have been having so much fun with this format over the past couple of days. This is exactly the kind of format casuals want to play and it has proved, in true 'Stars fashion, a roaring success. Not surprised to see the same losing players in here just to bash the format without even properly trying it out. I hope to see other types of exciting, jackpot-style games like Max Hold'em represent the future of online poker and eventually replace boring formats like 100bb cash.

lol bro, they were introduced yesterday.

Yeah probably leave it out to the ppl what they consider boring or not. Zoom style cash games 100bb+ apparently are still attractive enough to run on different platforms.

Seems like trolling, but anyway, prove me wrong and show how a ~20 hand game for 9% rake and ridic blind structures with 3 hands per level can be beat over a decent sample. GL with that.

Will this new format force micro spin and go regs to start playing the max version?

Is it really 9% rake? Sorry i couldn't find a proper description anywhere..

I actually think this is a genuis move from PS, (aside from the rake trap). It's new, fun, many factors (random amount of player, randomizing of prizes. I think alot of people will be attracted to the format. (Once again, obvious raketrap, but still a good idea from a business perspective). I tried a 1$ and will probably never play one again

D- Troll

Can someone just ban PowerfulReg at this point? It's an obvious troll and detracts from discussion

Maybe it's a preview of online poker in its final form.
(It might have just been a glitch, or perhaps the prizes only show on the Home tab. I have no intention of playing one to find out for sure).

This is a display bug. The prize distribution is written in the 'Home' tab instead of the 'Structure' one in Spin & Go Max so far.

Fired up 2 of the $1 buy in games to see for myself how they played. Won them both for a total profit of $1. Biggest rip off ever. They absolutely need to fix the payouts so that second place can't win more than first.

lolrakestars

Lol holy **** that's a travesty, so absurd that it's funny. How depressing.

7-9% based on buy-in.
https://www.pokerstars.uk/poker/spin...o-max/payouts/
https://www.pokerstars.com/poker/spi...o-max/payouts/
https://www.pokerstars.eu/poker/spin...o-max/payouts/

I agree with this, except I don't think it's a good idea from a business perspective having such high rake.

This is obv a game for recs. You can win the most money by not winning the game.

We have these in New Jersey but only on 888/WSOP so far under the name "Blast". Hopefully they don't come to StarsNJ though, since they are the worst. There's no way they're beatable.

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(If they improve their software to a competitive level and improve their anti-cheating efforts)
As long as their is a demand for skill-based poker formats, their will be supply, doesn't matter from the customer's perspective who's supplying it if the conditions are fine.

You serious?

I mean even a clueless dummy will absolutely hate that.

On Pokerstars.be we do not seem to have those new spin and go max.

Lol at second place winning more bucks than first place.

we have, its next to the spin & go's

It's pretty obvious stars is slowly moving entirely away from poker to a more casino based platform. Theyre doing it slowly hoping to retain their base. Any talk about this trying to preserve the poker economy is ****ing lol and a total lie. The main motivation for businesses is always 1. Money and 2. Money. They want to make more money. They already know casinos don't make much money on poker. My prediction is they will continue to move towards casino type poker games until poker is no longer spread, or becomes a very tiny part of their player base.