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08-01-2011, 10:10 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Jan 2010
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Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
The EPT has 3% going to dealers and staff out of the entry fees.
Tournament directions ask people who have a large cash, mainly the final table, if they want to tip the dealers an additional amount.
It seems as if any funds that these players then tip are not passed on to the dealers (EPT Germany for sure) and it is justified as contributing towards the wages of the staff.
Is the TD, who is the one suggesting the tip, pocketing the money?
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08-01-2011, 10:12 AM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2010
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re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
what are your proof for saying you know what happened in germany?
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08-01-2011, 10:18 AM
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banned
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: bad etiquette
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re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
Who cares? TD = staff, no?
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08-01-2011, 10:47 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: 20% discount on the above: ANLH20
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
OP's topic is, are the tips going where intended? We don't need any more tip or not to tip threads so please don't derail.
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08-01-2011, 01:53 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: On a pair draw
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
In my experience, they ask anyone who cashes period if they want to tip.
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08-01-2011, 02:12 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 89
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
It is not uniform across all EPTs that 3% is removed - some have 3% taken from the prize pool, some have 0% taken...as that is the case I would imagine that the 3% is not consistently distributed either, to some venues that 3% might to the floor only, and some it might go to both floor and dealers.
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08-01-2011, 03:37 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada weeeee
Posts: 1,418
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
lol at 3% going to floor, they work soooo hard.
If I saw that 3% already was TAKEN from me from prizepool for "dealers" when they asked me if I want to tip extra id say "No thanks you took 3% already, am I right?"
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08-01-2011, 07:26 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Posts: 335
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
I cashed in an EPT for close to 100k a few years ago (no brag intended), and when leaving the table was asked by Thomas Kremser how much I would like to leave as a tip for the dealers. I had no idea what would be appropriate so asked what he would expect. He said somewhere in the region of 5k (~7% of my cash) would be appropriate, and when I declined to donate that much he got pretty pissy with me.
Not sure what others experiences have been but I wasn't too impressed by that.
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08-01-2011, 09:01 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada weeeee
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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Originally Posted by OutOut
I cashed in an EPT for close to 100k a few years ago (no brag intended), and when leaving the table was asked by Thomas Kremser how much I would like to leave as a tip for the dealers. I had no idea what would be appropriate so asked what he would expect. He said somewhere in the region of 5k (~7% of my cash) would be appropriate, and when I declined to donate that much he got pretty pissy with me.
Not sure what others experiences have been but I wasn't too impressed by that.
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lol thats sooooo greasy id have just laughed and given $500 mayyybeee
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08-01-2011, 10:29 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: drinking in a saloon
Posts: 11,940
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
3% was taken out of EPT San Remo last year, but somehow despite my 4th place finish for €345k (def a barg), I wasn't asked to tip.
I bumped into one of the San Remo dealers there quite recently and he mentioned that Pagano Events, who supply the dealers for all the Stars events in Italy, regularly press-gang people into tipping more than the 3% already withheld, and not even giving any of that 3% to the staff. FYI 3-5% tips are standard but that figure goes down for big wins.
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08-01-2011, 10:40 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 110
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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Originally Posted by play4purple
It is not uniform across all EPTs that 3% is removed - some have 3% taken from the prize pool, some have 0% taken...as that is the case I would imagine that the 3% is not consistently distributed either, to some venues that 3% might to the floor only, and some it might go to both floor and dealers.
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It would be dealers (floors only if they are not salary) pooled, and split on hours worked basis. At least that's how we did it. Canadian casinos.
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08-01-2011, 11:54 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 453
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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Originally Posted by OutOut
I cashed in an EPT for close to 100k a few years ago (no brag intended), and when leaving the table was asked by Thomas Kremser how much I would like to leave as a tip for the dealers. I had no idea what would be appropriate so asked what he would expect. He said somewhere in the region of 5k (~7% of my cash) would be appropriate, and when I declined to donate that much he got pretty pissy with me.
Not sure what others experiences have been but I wasn't too impressed by that.
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If it was me, i would have put a 5€ bill in my mouth, chew it a little, and give it to him
And after that give like 300-500€ to the dealer maybe
Would that be appropriate mr Kremser ?
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08-02-2011, 05:42 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: London
Posts: 335
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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Originally Posted by French ninja
If it was me, i would have put a 5€ bill in my mouth, chew it a little, and give it to him
And after that give like 300-500€ to the dealer maybe
Would that be appropriate mr Kremser ?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThatsABingo
lol thats sooooo greasy id have just laughed and given $500 mayyybeee
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Funnily enough I think I gave 500 Euros. Would have given more but he pissed me off with that, wasn't sure if I was being tight though
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08-02-2011, 07:38 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: twin peaks
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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08-02-2011, 07:51 AM
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banned
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 5,974
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Re: Pokerstars EPT - Tips going to the dealers or not?
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Originally Posted by OutOut
I cashed in an EPT for close to 100k a few years ago (no brag intended), and when leaving the table was asked by Thomas Kremser how much I would like to leave as a tip for the dealers. I had no idea what would be appropriate so asked what he would expect. He said somewhere in the region of 5k (~7% of my cash) would be appropriate, and when I declined to donate that much he got pretty pissy with me. 
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Wow, if someone did that to me and then had the balls to got annoyed with me, I'd flip a quarter on the table and walk out.
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