Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends? - Page 6 - Poker News

clout · 07-15-2010, 11:41 AM

merge the two threads imo

Greg_16 · 07-15-2010, 11:50 AM

Lol from PTR

Hands - 1536
Stakes - $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max)
Winnings - $1,343.55

3J55 btw vs Chiren in one session 13th July.

jack frost · 07-15-2010, 12:15 PM

go re read chirens first statement ITT. Him and 3j55 are long time real life friends and he says 3j55 just "happened" to sit with him and then they just "happen" to leave every table as soon as someone sits then go sit at another table TOGETHER.

THEN YOU say that he isn't chip dumping when they raise 5+$ pre and fold for 2$ on the flop into an 18-20$ pot????/ what exactly is that then?

It's pretty clear he is paying 3j55 to do this with and make it even value for both players.

ShotCaller · 07-15-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by quarantined

So much garbage has gone on at stars lately,if any of this,chinese colluders,'poker pros' urging on friends at final tables,etc.etc. was going on at ub or one of the smaller sites,there would be indignation,but as usual pokerstars seems to pretty much get a pass on everything.Oh well just raise the rake unannounced again,that should fix everything.

Pokerstars is rigged from day 1 so I doubt they care

whysoawful · 07-15-2010, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg_16

Lol from PTR

Hands - 1536
Stakes - $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max)
Winnings - $1,343.55

3J55 btw vs Chiren in one session 13th July.

he should be banned, if this isn't manipulating then what is? TOS is pretty clear on this...

Keruli · 07-15-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by quarantined

So much garbage has gone on at stars lately,if any of this,chinese colluders,'poker pros' urging on friends at final tables,etc.etc. was going on at ub or one of the smaller sites,there would be indignation,but as usual pokerstars seems to pretty much get a pass on everything.Oh well just raise the rake unannounced again,that should fix everything.

wait, you're saying UB has higher standards etc than stars? wtf is that ****

weaselgirl · 07-15-2010, 02:00 PM

For anyone that hasn't bothered to look it up yet;

el oh el.

I love that Chiren came into the thread at first and tried to tell a BS story to "explain " this, then follows it up with:

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Originally Posted by Chiren

As an online pro or normal player i wouldn't do anything illegal, if Pokerstars say it is i will stop immediately

Getting your excuses ready already? This is just disgusting.

spankedtwice · 07-15-2010, 02:04 PM

the thread title is flawed as ****, here are 3J55's recent results at .05 / .10 nlh:

1536 $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max) $1,343.55 Jul 13th - 6:25pm CDT Jul 13th - 8:13pm CDT
4 $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max) $14.15 Jul 13th - 3:00pm CDT Jul 13th - 3:01pm CDT
562 $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max) $-314.13 Jul 13th - 10:17am CDT Jul 13th - 11:28am CDT
853 $0.05/$0.1 NLH (9-max) $-1,236.82 Jul 12th - 6:25pm CDT Jul 12th - 8:06pm CDT

do the math, if anything they are playing in this manner to both collect vpp's. whether it is against TOC or really matters is beyond me. just my 2 cents.

craigmarq · 07-15-2010, 02:22 PM

Dude, relax. Chiren is just trying to powergame pokerstars.

whysoawful · 07-15-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiren

When the promo came out i started to play 24 tables 10NL as its very chill and good vpp's. 3j55 started to join my tables and play more and more aggressive vs me and i adapted ending up table selecting to be heads up vs him all the time.

I have won some and lost some the accusations in this thread are not in line with how i'm playing you can check the hand histories. I'm neither flipping nor chipdumping nor colluding and am not breaking any rules in the TOS.

If someone sticks it in with almost ATC its normal u call/shuv with botton pair.

And starting to play tight will only make him play tighter aswell which is minus ev for me.

I'm replying for the people that want a clear answer from me because i know that to some haterz it doesn't matter what i say.

As an online pro or normal player i wouldn't do anything illegal, if Pokerstars say it is i will stop immediately, although i don't think it's the case because i have informed myself and even talked to them as some people accused me of cheating in chatwindow.

this needs quoted before he can re-edit it.

whysoawful · 07-15-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by goldieshorn

1. 3J55 had $20 you had around $70.

2. 3J55 raised to $5, you re-raised to $18 and 3J55 called.

3. 3J55 went all in with his remaining $2, you fold.

4. See number 3. You do this over and over again?

bump for like 1000 of the hands... how is he not banned?

TheNixonator · 07-15-2010, 03:29 PM

Lol@ people saying he isn't chip dumping. He lost 200 buy-ins in one session?? Are you serious? Not to mention there's more than one person confirming that Chiren will put his friend to his last $2 and then fold. I don't care who you are, there's no way it's not chip dumping when you're folding to a $2 bet in a $36 pot. Everyone who doesn't think it's chip dumping are blinded Chiren fan boys whos opinion is too biased to even consider.

shipontilt · 07-15-2010, 03:29 PM

he was obviously bonus whoring the micromania, seems strange he would fold for the last $2 though.

Hoobangin · 07-15-2010, 03:29 PM

This guy should be banned. He is like one of those guys that exploit glitches in video games and sit there for hours padding their record. I mean anyone with half a brain would realize that this is exploiting the VIP program.

Try that at a buisiness I run, there won't be any asking of you to stop. I'll take you out back and beat some sense into a scumbag like you.

PokerPlayer80 · 07-15-2010, 03:40 PM

I really have no respect for all of these Chiren-types. I hate these guys whose only skill is having no life, playing millions of hands and then being rewarded from Rakeback or some other reward system that gives back to players who put in mass volume.

That, coupled with the fact that he comes here and tries to play it off like he was not up to anything shady as of late, and I must say that I can’t stand him even more.