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Old 07-14-2010, 04:19 PM   #16
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

OP get some HH's into this thread in the least.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:20 PM   #17
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Yes mate I did, they are looking into it.

Also they were both sitting out on another table, i joined the table and they both immediately sat back in? i only played the one hand then left,

something fishy going on here....
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:22 PM   #18
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I'm neither flipping nor chipdumping nor colluding and am not breaking any rules in the TOS....

if Pokerstars say it is i will stop immediately
Wat?
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:22 PM   #19
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

who cares, 3J55 will lose it all to the rake anyway

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:24 PM   #20
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

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When the promo came out i started to play 24 tables 10NL as its very chill and good vpp's. 3j55 started to join my tables and play more and more aggressive vs me and i adapted ending up table selecting to be heads up vs him all the time.

I have won some and lost some the accusations in this thread are not in line with how i'm playing you can check the hand histories. I'm neither flipping nor chipdumping nor colluding and am not breaking any rules in the TOS.

If someone sticks it in with almost ATC its normal u call/shuv with botton pair.

And starting to play tight will only make him play tighter aswell which is minus ev for me.

I'm replying for the people that want a clear answer from me because i know that to some haterz it doesn't matter what i say.

As an online pro or normal player i wouldn't do anything illegal, if Pokerstars say it is i will stop immediately, although i don't think it's the case because i have informed myself and even talked to them as some people accused me of cheating in chatwindow.
ur down 360 bi's in 2 days ......but u still think ur +ev against this guy? (who is up 90k on PTR and doesnt normally play micros). obviously ur farming which who cares, I just wanna know how it's +ev for you.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:26 PM   #21
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It'll be funny if he gets banned.
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:27 PM   #22
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

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When the promo came out i started to play 24 tables 10NL as its very chill and good vpp's. 3j55 started to join my tables and play more and more aggressive vs me and i adapted ending up table selecting to be heads up vs him all the time.

I have won some and lost some the accusations in this thread are not in line with how i'm playing you can check the hand histories. I'm neither flipping nor chipdumping nor colluding and am not breaking any rules in the TOS.

If someone sticks it in with almost ATC its normal u call/shuv with botton pair.

And starting to play tight will only make him play tighter aswell which is minus ev for me.

I'm replying for the people that want a clear answer from me because i know that to some haterz it doesn't matter what i say.

As an online pro or normal player i wouldn't do anything illegal, if Pokerstars say it is i will stop immediately, although i don't think it's the case because i have informed myself and even talked to them as some people accused me of cheating in chatwindow.

1. 3J55 had $20 you had around $70.

2. 3J55 raised to $5, you re-raised to $18 and 3J55 called.

3. 3J55 went all in with his remaining $2, you fold.

4. See number 3. You do this over and over again?

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Old 07-14-2010, 04:28 PM   #23
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

winrate phucking so PTR will display his WR at -20ptbb when he only is a break even player ? HU players do that to get action, maybe he is sick of being berated about that.

and lol@ posts above, wtf is wrong with you chiren...
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:30 PM   #24
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Sit down, wait for Aces and shove.

Ship the monies
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:31 PM   #25
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1. 3J55 had $20 you had around $70.

2. 3J55 raised to $5, you re-raised to $18 and 3J55 called.

3. 3J55 went all in with his remaining $2, you fold.

4. See number 3. You do this over and over again?

HH?
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Old 07-14-2010, 04:41 PM   #26
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

Chiren must be one of the stupidest people i have ever seen, he is so obviously abusing the promotion with hes friend to make a few bucks its accualy sickening.

I cant belive i accualy liked him, but this is just so dirty and low even if it is to make a few bucks for a friend. I hope he gets banned and all of his funds locked and kicked from Team Ps.

I cant belive pokerstars is accualy letting themself getting taken advantage off like the he is basically stealing from them, after everything they have done for him.

Im sure he will stop by now, but i hope pokerstars looks into it and see the clear collusion that has been going on.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:18 PM   #27
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

Okay, let's do the math

During Micromania you get 10 VPPs per $ paid in rake.

If Chiren has indeed endless 7x bonus for being an online pro, that means for every $ paid in rake he would get

online pro bonus
10 VPP /(7 FPP / $) = 1.43$

SNE FPPs
10 VPP * 5 FPP/VPP=50 FPP = .8$

VPPs towards reaching SNE again this year
????$


The first two alone make the action a 223% rb deal, in other words if he plays a friend hu with 100% wins/losses being shipped back, his deal alone will more than compensate for the rake both of them pay. Add the
FPPs and possible bonus his friend makes while doing this and flipping all day could be worth some real money.

By this I'm not saying Chiren is cheating/colluding, just that it would be lucrative for him to cheat/collude
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:32 PM   #28
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

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Okay, let's do the math

During Micromania you get 10 VPPs per $ paid in rake.

If Chiren has indeed endless 7x bonus for being an online pro, that means for every $ paid in rake he would get

online pro bonus
10 VPP /(7 FPP / $) = 1.43$

SNE FPPs
10 VPP * 5 FPP/VPP=50 FPP = .8$

VPPs towards reaching SNE again this year
????$


The first two alone make the action a 223% rb deal, in other words if he plays a friend hu with 100% wins/losses being shipped back, his deal alone will more than compensate for the rake both of them pay. Add the
FPPs and possible bonus his friend makes while doing this and flipping all day could be worth some real money.

By this I'm not saying Chiren is cheating/colluding, just that it would be lucrative for him to cheat/collude
I'm not allowed to give any details about my online pro contract but the calculations are completely wrong, every person that knows about it can confirm as i get the limited benefits anywayz with the amount i play 200NL. I actually lost some $ by playing against him and thats the only reason he stayed on my tables. The main thing i won by doing this is vpp's to maintain sne that allow me to spare time which is more valuable to me then the few $ i lost.

Saying i'm stealing from pokerstars makes no sense at all if you know the numbers, losing $ in return for vpp's which are worth it to me is the only thing i win from this.
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:39 PM   #29
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

This is the best paladin in the world you people are talking about. If you sheep his partner he will dispel it so fast it's like his partner was NEVER SHEEPED AT ALL. Show some respect, why don't you?
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Old 07-14-2010, 05:40 PM   #30
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Re: Poker Stars Pro's dumping $$$ to friends?

lol at this thread in general, really is trivial.
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