This indictment has zero to do with poker. If what the man did then that is obviously illegal. I am sure they have him dead to rights. Now the part where he charged people more than they owe is really messed up. Besides the threats to get people to pay their debt. I am betting this guy takes a plea deal.

I didn't think that needed clarity. " Most recently" is a qualifier for a separate event

What's strange to me about federal investigations is that they let so many people be victimized. The amount of evidence they collect is such severe overkill. While they're collecting 1,000 pages of evidence, other people are being victimized.

The worst is federal drug investigations. They'll watch people get murdered and won't arrest anyone. They'll watch people put thousands of pounds of meth on the streets for years without arresting them. They'll watch the same guy rape 10 women and won't arrest him until years later; while they could have arrested him after the first rape and saved the other 9 women the pain of being raped.

I haven't read the details of this case, but if it's like most federal investigations, they could have arrested these guys back in 2012, or at least 2013. They could have saved all the pain and suffering that the victims experience in the last few years.

As a country, we need to shorten the statute of limitations across the board on all crimes. The feds are letting too many crimes happen because of ultra-long statutes.

Down boy down. It wasn't a judgement on your writing ability but rather our reading ability.

If they are guilty of what they are being charged with then yes, they are 100% wrong. AND illegal.

Guilty until proven innocent.

Thats why i said IF they are guilty. And still a good chance they are scumbags even if not guilty.

k special agent jesse123...how did you gain knowledge of "most federal investigations"? did you know the department of justice employs over 100k people including ~35k for the FBI alone?

also perps used to WALK. it took decades to bring down gotti, gambinos, etc.. these people have a lot of money for lawyers and i doubt FBI agents collect "evidence" for fun. a crime has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt and that requires a serious investigation.

as for the victims, they'll get restitution. arresting one member of the corporation wouldn't stop the crime. there's a reason they're all being indicted at once.

also the statute of limitations for wire fraud is 5 years and 10 years in certain circumstances. how long do you think it should be?

One can state with a great deal of certainty that in any Anglo-American type jurisdiction, knowingly communicating false information for the purpose of obtaining a favorable financial result is a civil or criminal wrong. There are exceptions of course; the best examples would be national security and situations where the recipient of the communication should be aware that the communication is fictional (i.e. has reason to doubt).

What if they're dead

agreed

So many legal experts....

Thanks, you gave me a good laugh!

Lol I see what you did there

there is a difference is using "creative" means to collect money vs. saying you are a government agency and that you are going to arrest someone for not paying a debt, clearly, if what is alleged is true that is most certainly fraud.

He had to be up to something you can't make a living mincashing

False.

Proof is 5 posts above

For a bunch of parasitic poker players you guys really have some skewed interpretations on morality.

Hahaha well played

You know nothing.

This is a series of really egregious scam that hustlers have been using against poor people all over the USA. Generally, they buy up a debt, owed by people who can't afford legal representation, and bully and bluster their way out of thousands and thousands they aren't entitled to.

http://www.cardhub.com/edu/debt-collection-scams/

I think Kessler is an airport scam debt collector on the low.

That's a low blow. You need to apologize because everyone knows that Mikey B is living a normal life free of crime now.

Poker Night in America at Turning Stone Resort Casino on August 9, 2015.

He pled guilty today, looking at 15+ years, and he cried in court. I love it when bad people get what they had coming to them.

http://www.seattletimes.com/business...llection-scam/

Headline should read something like, "Debt Collector who enjoys playing poker as a hobby, indicted on fraud"