Good luck on getting your money back. That really sucks and I wish you the best.

Stick with me here cause this is going to be hard for you to grasp, but most decisions we make in life have potential negative consequences. This is why people use their capacity for logical thought and attempt to weigh the value of the benefits versus the potential downside.

It's a bit different playing online or in a casino, but being an underground card player there is a certain need for money lending. With that need for money lending goes a need for making sure people know that they can't just skip out on a gambling debt because there is no legal recourse against them. If that translates to a kid getting his ass kicked on his front lawn by a low-level Irish mobster because he doesn't feel like making good on a $3k debt from a poker game, that's life. The fact that you may not find the benefits of this to outweigh the risks and thus believe the same should hold true for everyone else does not make you look enlightened here.

Google wasn't my friend, link plz?

This might be a blessing is disguise. This loan you made to him will change your whole outlook on lending money to strangers. That alone will save you a small fortune in the future

I doubt that you will see that 28k back . But its a small price to pay for the life lesson you just gained

brad booth is old school man, chill out. you new school guys coming on the webz and outing everyone who owes you a little money. someone owes daniel n 500 large and he isn't naming names. old school man. maybe brad owes daniel 500. so old school.

You're a joke, Jay. Let me know if you want me to elaborate why.

100000%

Right on the MONEY!

WOW--You hit it on the head!

Well said!

Dude, this is NVG. Most of us don't have thirty dollars, let alone thirty thousand. We're only here to feed on other people's misery. The real favour you do is provide us with a few moments of schadenfreude.

OP does 28k mean alot to you or are you a super baller?

so say your roll is a million than 28K is like the equivalent of someone with a 50K roll getting hit for about 1400 (not the end of the world but a decent dent) or someone with a 10K roll getting hit for 275 (no one would bat an eye if a 1/2 - 2/5 grind got hit for 300 bucks - even though its about losing a buy-in)

so what im saying is its all relative if your a millionaire and this happened whatever. if your roll was 100K and you got smashed for 28K than ha ha ha.

+1

OP is a respected reg on 2+2. He made a bad decision and is down $28k. He of all people knows that.

He could have kept his mouth shut about it, no-one would be dissing him and Brad's reputation would be clean as a whistle for future "transactions" Is that what the haters want ?

GL Doug.

The haters want to feel more intelligent than someone who is much more successful than them ldo. Standard for the internet.

So much truth in this post.

If you think violence or the threat of violence is the only way repayment will be made, then I think the better idea before this is you sell the debt to someone who feels he can collect from Brad eventually for some amt of cents on the dollar, inform brad, "ok you owe this guy now brad, good luck" and then wash yourself of the whole deal.

Also, WCG, out of morbid curiosity, did you lend to Brad before or after the whole eric lindgren dramabomb dropped on here?

This is the kind of thinking that brought us FTP and UB!

Stop discussing breaking someone's legs or hiring someone to hurt people who owe money. Only warning - future posts like that get infracts.

OP, I hope you get your money back.

Wow amazing this **** keeps happening.

you're an idiot. all your spam posts suck. does anyone bother to read doug's explanations?

for a number of reasons, ****ty US sites are going for like .90c/$1 for cash xfer, so trading 30k online for 30k cash is a huge win, saving you about 3k, and i'm sure a lot of completely rational people would have jumped all over it. w/ the information doug had (partial), it seemed that there would be no problem getting the money, and his transaction had a very high chance of going smoothly. even if doug knew that brad's playing 5/10 and in tough times, the chances of him scamming is still probably less than 10 percent given connections and status (despite results).

it's not a risk i would have taken, but all this OP hate is completely misguided. and LOL @ the thought of doug needing to suck up to brad booth. he's a very good player, very socially intelligent, and probably doesn't blink twice at phil ivey let alone brad booth.

What perplexes WCG and the rest of the normal people is how you and others keep insisting he loaned yukon money.

Reading and comprehension skills are a must around here.

He owes me $16,000 from about 3 years ago. Same story met him at the Wynn, he gave me cash for $10k first and then asked for more so I thought it was ok shipped him and then since hasn't paid me back...

I wonder if brad realizes it is going to take him like a year to get that money offline.

The Mom's Basement Dwellers who come into these threads insulting the victims as stupid etc. don't have any experience in this area or the perspective that comes with it. For every poker loan or transfer in 'the community' that goes bad, there are probably 5,000 that are trouble-free.

I'm no hs reg by _any_ means, but I play mid-stakes live regularly in casinos and in home games, and I've loaned money to people I only know from playing many times. I went on a recent trip a little short, and when I busted in the midst of some great action, I called a friend who runs a local game who I only know from playing, and have not interacted with him anywhere but at his game. Our conversation:

Me: I'm at casino x, and just busted the roll I brought with me...and the action is great.
Him: do you want me to wire you? I can do 3k this afternoon if you want.

That was it...no beating around the bush, no "Can you spot me? I SWEAR I'm good for it." etc. This is a guy who I'd lay even money doesn't know for sure what my last name is. What he does know is that I'm a winning player, I'm a good steward of my money (no pit games, good tilt control etc.) and that I'm honorable (and being gainfully employed doesn't hurt).

That's just how it is in the poker world. The rule I follow when I loan is that I never give anybody money that I'll miss if I don't get it back. That way I don't stress, and if I get stiffed, I figure it's a cheap way to get someone who is obviously not a person I would want to continue to associate with to leave me alone.

cliffs: the haters should stfu, as they know not of what they speak

I've decided that poker is a just a cesspool for people who are scumbags. A significant proportion of the people who play poker are liars, cheats, and frauds.

Something that attracts so many despicable human beings will never get respect in this country....and we wonder why online gambling was made illegal in the US.

Haha....ahahaha! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!

sorry man makes me sick

You have nearly 6000 posts, joined since 2007, wtf would you lend Brad Booth money, no sympathy