I am accepting responsibility for the risk of the transfer, however saying i had to have known is clearly incorrect, as had i known or had any idea i would not have made the transfer.

I dont read nvg, if it is common knowledge here then it doesn't mean that everyone knows.

yeah it def wasn't a normal 'loan' per se, I can easily see how it happened. successful first transfer + people saying he usually has a big roll + well known 'pro' factor. i just have heard soooo many of these stories, even about 'name' pros that I swear there's about 3 people I know in poker I'd lend/send first any significant amount to.

never trust strangers with money, and for the love of God, don't trust your friends. money changes things. I have learnt this the hard way, and it took some time to do so :/

having said that, I feel for OP here, that's a chunk of change to lose + the stress over it. hopefully it gets resolved, somehow.

How do so many people read WCG as WGC lol (This has always happened)

I really hope you get your money back.
I still don't understand how people can flick money off to people who are friends of friends especially for big amounts of money like that.

fyp. i hate hearing about these situations and it sucks for the person out the cash and feel for you wcg.

but srsly, how many of these "_____ is welching/trying to welch their debt to me" come up and someone has to use the 2p2 community as leverage? this ain't the old times where the poker community is fairly small so people actually value their rep.

i have a simple solution to limit these situations -- if you cannot personally vouch (as in risk your reputation to say someone's word is 100% good) for the person you're transferring $$$ to, don't do it. otherwise you're pretty naive.

It'll be a long time before you see that money

If ever.

Sucks. Sorry man

Hi hater, i just know how degens are, been around it my whole life, people juggle money when they are desperate, he wanted to get comfortable and win then pay OP, thats the truth.
scamming identiy is diff than scamming $$$. fwiw

I doubt you'll get your money back, but in the long term you may have saved yourself a lot more with the valuable lesson learned. Don't trust anyone, especially gamblers.

Sucks. Gl

Yo WCG

I don't understand why he needed the transfer? If he had the cash, why can't he just deposit himself ?!

And yeah, sorry to say, Brad's SuperUser debt's are pretty common knowledge on NVG (and not denied by Brad either FWIW)

wasnt booth tryin to blackmail hellmuth cpl months ago ??

meh he has always been like the biggest scumbag in poker

oh ya. whatever happened with that

I think that's the info that WCG is going to expose if he doesn't get paid back