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Old 05-17-2017, 09:00 AM   #2351
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

Withdrawing usd to aud on stars was already ~3% crunch since amaya came in. Going from neteller usd to AUD bank acnt is 3.79% as lowest VIP lvl. Cant remember skrills numbers but i think it was similar. They are owned by the same company since recent years IIRC
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:55 PM   #2352
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Can confirm same message. I do find it strange that Australian banks would deny these transfers but it is what it is.
Yes its Stars not the banks. As im sure youre now aware of as i read further into the thread.

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Old 05-17-2017, 11:25 PM   #2353
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It's envoy services - the merchant acquirer
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:25 PM   #2354
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Poker In Australia But For How Long?

how can stars then refuse to transfer to a bank? i don't understand why they would change their policy?
what benefit do they have to enforce us to use neteller etc
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:15 AM   #2355
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An acquirer facilitates the transfer between the banks. In this case it's envoy services who aren't willing to transfer these funds into Australia. They've obviously changed their policy which seems strange considering this isn't law yet. If it was Stars blocking, we couldn't use skrill, neteller etc.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:23 AM   #2356
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It's envoy services - the merchant acquirer
yes but you get what i meant, its on their end to fix the problem, not for their customers to get shafted to using ewallets that effectively cheat people out of money to make a profit margin.
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Old 05-18-2017, 12:30 AM   #2357
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Yes - its disappointing for sure.
I would have thought PokerStars could have organised with envoy services (who I assume is still their acquirer) so we could get funds out of PokerStars - and some notice would have been good too.
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:04 AM   #2358
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Note from PokerStars
"Your case was escalated to me based on the nature of your request.

First, I would like to apologize for this situation. I must reiterate that with these updates, we are at the discretion of the processor in terms of policy changes and their ability to process transactions in different areas and countries.

While I understand the frustration about not receiving further details in regards to why this policy changed, I must assure you that this is not something we have control over. As highlighted above, we are completely at the discretion of the processor for these situations, and unfortunately we cannot influence this decision.

Processors depend on policies received by the Financial Institutions depending on the country they are located at, therefore, if by any chance there is an update in certain policy on the Bank's end, it will have direct repercussions on us, affecting our players, like in your case.

With these particular situations, it is the processor who is responsible for resolving this matter (if possible) which is ultimately out of our control.

We understand this is not your fault, however I can assure you we are being afected by these changes as well. I hope you understand our position in regards to this matter, however if you have further inquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us back.

Thank you for your cooperation and understanding and we hope you have a nice day."
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Old 05-18-2017, 05:21 AM   #2359
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

Sorry to post and be a pleb but after reading this all should I panicly withdraw via this net skrill thing or should I just wait?

Given that pokerstars said months ago our money would be safe and easily accessible to withdraw and this happens I feel o should panicly withdraw but am unsure. Hoping some of you legends can shed some light for me
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:40 AM   #2360
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Yes, Austtalians will still be able to play on their accounts as long as they are living abroad and inform Stars of their new address. you will almost certainly not be able to deposit with an Australian credit card and I am very doubtful you will still be able to cash out to an Australian bank account.
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Does this include deposits from a credit card?

I originally deposited using an ANZ credit card. Do you know if I will be able to cashout back to this card?

Also - why is everyone cashing out now? Is it because you anticipate problems once Stars finally pulls out?
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:47 AM   #2361
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I was just getting some cash out after winning some money with the intention of pulling out as late as possible. Seeing PokerStars horribly misjudge the payment processor risks, I'm pulling out most of my money now.
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:53 AM   #2362
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

Stars will 100% pay everyone when they pull out of aus market, to do otherwise would jeopardise their UK license

It might suck if we have to use third party processors because there are no other options but we'll get paid. Then it's off to the risky world of unregulated chinese sites and acr etc.
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Old 05-18-2017, 08:32 AM   #2363
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Stars will 100% pay everyone when they pull out of aus market, to do otherwise would jeopardise their UK license

It might suck if we have to use third party processors because there are no other options but we'll get paid. Then it's off to the risky world of unregulated chinese sites and acr etc.
SO do you reckon just keep chill like an ice cube and not setup a skrill account for the sole purpose of withdrawing ? TYTY
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Old 05-18-2017, 10:14 AM   #2364
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Why wouldn't you set up an account unless you plan on going busto....that's the only way to take your money out or netteller.

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Old 05-18-2017, 08:57 PM   #2365
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Why wouldn't you set up an account unless you plan on going busto....that's the only way to take your money out or netteller.
Hoping the decision gets reversed and we get access to straight bank transfer again I guess? I've got NFI what the odds of that actually happening are.
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Old 05-18-2017, 09:01 PM   #2366
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Zero.if these changes have been made they won't be reversed because of a few complaining customers about to be removed from the market anyways.i guess it's something to keep this thread going atm huh.everyones acting like you can't withdraw funds at all.if this is your reaction to this can't wait to hear the winging when we all actually get blocked

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Old 05-18-2017, 09:18 PM   #2367
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Re: Poker In Australia But For How Long?

So for skrill, is "Bank Sort Code" where the BSB goes?
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Old 05-19-2017, 06:07 AM   #2368
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Why wouldn't you set up an account unless you plan on going busto....that's the only way to take your money out or netteller.

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This, you're going to need a Skrill or Neteller anyway unless they allow bank withdrawals so you may as well set one up and verify it anyway, but it's not time sensitive or anything unless you need your money urgently for whatever reason

I have no idea whats going on re direct bank withdrawals your best bet is to ask stars support directly

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So for skrill, is "Bank Sort Code" where the BSB goes?

I believe so, Bank Sort code is BSB and Swift Code if its needed is like WPACAU2s (for westpac) or whatever the equivalent is for the other banks (you can google it for your bank)

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Old 05-19-2017, 07:29 AM   #2369
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Does this include deposits from a credit card?

I originally deposited using an ANZ credit card. Do you know if I will be able to cashout back to this card?

Also - why is everyone cashing out now? Is it because you anticipate problems once Stars finally pulls out?
I also used an ANZ credit card to make deposits to PokerStars. About 6 weeks ago, I withdrew all my cash on PokerStars just in case something did go wrong, and it was credited back to my ANZ account within a couple of days. Good luck.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:36 AM   #2370
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That's good.

Currently running as pure as I've ever run since 2006.

Must mean we're getting switched off any day now
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:38 AM   #2371
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[QUOTE=Yeah I've was thinking the same thing way above ev like a little going away present....the end is near

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Old 05-19-2017, 08:40 AM   #2372
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Nows the time to take shots f9r sure

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Old 05-19-2017, 07:35 PM   #2373
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Yes Aussie boom switch confirmed real. They don't want early cashouts.
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Old 05-19-2017, 08:17 PM   #2374
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Cashed out Tuesday to Westpac Visa - no problem. Money is in the account. Maybe its just some banks?
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Old 05-19-2017, 09:40 PM   #2375
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I think cashing out to visa is different to doing a bank transfer
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