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Congratz James Packer.

More money coming your way, Crownbet, Crown Casino....ffs.

It's like the lockout laws, channel everyone into Star casino. They are barricading us like sheep into brick and mortar casinos for slaughter.

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03-20-2017 , 09:37 PM

#1979

Harambee

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http://www.aph.gov.au/News_and_Events/Watch_Parliament

Click watch Senate live

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03-20-2017 , 09:40 PM

#1980

OzExorcist

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Originally Posted by thisisjimmybruv

Maybe ask leyonhjelm about that one and what vpn he will be using

I sincerely doubt Senator Leyonhjelm has given any though to the specifics or practicalities - he's probably just heard that you can use a VPN to watch geoblocked video clips on YouTube and assumes people will be able to do the same here.

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03-20-2017 , 09:40 PM

#1981

meltingaway

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Originally Posted by Aliquantum

What are you watching this on bazooka?

http://www.aph.gov.au/Watch_Read_Listen

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03-20-2017 , 09:42 PM

#1982

thisisjimmybruv

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Originally Posted by OzExorcist

Ofcourse he gave it no thought that's why he mentioned it and didn't help his argument at all.

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03-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

#1983

rsepping

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Originally Posted by Chuck Bass

I'm not an expert and definitely don't advocate VPNing in any way. But just for the sake of discussion, I assume that the main problem here will be that you won't be allowed to own a PokerStars (/~any poker site) account as an Australian. So you would still have to "move" to New Zealand, open a bank account there, get a residential address where you receive a utility bill etc. Theoretically you could do do all this in a month just in an airbnb, and then you could go back to Aus and VPN from there hoping not to get caught. But if you do get caught you'll lose your playing privileges forever (or at least for a long time) and likely also the funds on your account. So unless you're one of the biggest winners this just really doesn't seem like worth the risk. But having that said, there are 100s of Americans VPNing from the States right now on PokerStars and they've been doing this every day for years. I went to the Isle Of Man to discuss widespread VPNing a few years ago at the Stars HQ and it was evident they had no means of tackling the issue. I believe this is still very much the situation today.

Again, I really don't suggest you do this and I think it's a really bad idea. It's also worth noting that the more you win, the bigger the risk of getting caught eventually is. People get bitter and might simply out you if you win the millball or something (this happened with a very well known American reg, he got snitched on by his friends). So yeah, I would really just focus on trying to change the law, surely there's some way to change things over time and luckily you already have JoeyDel who'll be the right man to lead the cause.

Thanks for explaining Chuck!

In my case I only moved to Australia 5 years ago and where I'm from it's still legal to play. I have my best mate still back there who I have staked and coached every now and then. If I just start using his account and do all deposit/withdrawals through his bank accounts then that should work too, right?

So devastated

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03-20-2017 , 09:44 PM

#1984

Aliquantum

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Thx

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03-20-2017 , 09:49 PM

#1985

stuckinreverse

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Originally Posted by Muznik

Man this has got me so angry !

As others have mentioned we have f**k'n Lottoland operating & advertising, cant watch the NRL without being bombarded with gambling ads/odds. Nearly every major sporting code has backing from Betting agencies

Freaking SportsBet have given me a LOC to bet with for f**ksake & I am only a nit punter !

Then you have all the phone/tablet games with "in app" purchase people are spending a fortune on (Candy Crush etc)

But hell no !! Don't dare fire up a $1 MTT or your family will be destitute ! WTF !?!?!?!

Would be remiss though not to thank Joey for the awesome fight he put up & also to Swoop for rally the troops. Thanks guys, at least someone was fighting for us recs.

Another freedom taken away by an oppressive, over bearing Nanny State Government who claim to only have pour best interests at heart.

I had a glance of the hansard report for the senate yesterday and noted the following below from the greens. Such a joke.

Senator RHIANNON (New South Wales) (20:53): I move Greens amendment on sheet 8056 standing in my name:

At the end of the motion, add:
", but the Senate notes this Bill is likely to lead to an expansion of the Australian gambling market through in-play betting in TABs, clubs and licenced premises and questions the rationale for such an approach in light of Labor and Liberal parties having received $10,460,819 in political donations from gambling interests over the past ten years.".

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03-20-2017 , 09:56 PM

#1986

bazooka87

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Here we go

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03-20-2017 , 09:59 PM

#1987

Chuck Bass

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Originally Posted by rsepping

I don't think this is really a good subject to discuss ITT (or in any thread really, as it's against every site's TOS). But yeah, that kind of setup would have some chance of working in my opinion, although I would still STRONGLY advise against it. But yeah, probably better to discuss that elsewhere and focus on the efforts to legalize online poker in Australia in this thread.

/sorry for derail

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03-20-2017 , 10:02 PM

#1988

yeahm8

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wow, xenophon is kind of on our side a bit here

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03-20-2017 , 10:02 PM

#1989

bazooka87

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I'm glad Xenophon is at least considering our position

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03-20-2017 , 10:03 PM

#1990

bazooka87

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Hinch as well! Guys this is 100% Joey's work

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03-20-2017 , 10:04 PM

#1991

bazooka87

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Ok Labor is out, government is out. This is done

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03-20-2017 , 10:07 PM

#1992

Muznik

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Wheres the chat box for this rail !?!?

Xenephon confusing Poker players with pokie players did my head in !

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03-20-2017 , 10:07 PM

#1993

DeepDreaming

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RIP. Now how do we get it back?

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03-20-2017 , 10:08 PM

#1994

bazooka87

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Originally Posted by Muznik

Wheres the chat box for this rail !?!?

Xenephon confusing Poker players with pokie players did my head in !

He did withdraw and correct himself though. Honestly very surprised Xenophon was reasonable there considering his stance

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03-20-2017 , 10:11 PM

#1995

Muznik

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Originally Posted by bazooka87

He did withdraw and correct himself though. Honestly very surprised Xenophon was reasonable there considering his stance

Yes, almost got my hopes up there towards the end

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03-20-2017 , 10:15 PM

#1996

Harambee

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03-20-2017 , 10:16 PM

#1997

stuckinreverse

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I just caught the end of the vote on the stream. So that was 46-6 against Senator Leyonhjelm's proposed amendment?

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03-20-2017 , 10:17 PM

#1998

Harambee

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yepp 46-6, devastating!

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03-20-2017 , 10:18 PM

#1999

yeahm8

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Yeah. It's such a shame that so many votes just default to no due to lack of understanding of the game and just assuming that poker is no different to other forms of gambling.