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07-27-2009, 01:57 AM
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#121
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Merge! FML on ELG, enough, for now
Posts: 7,597
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
DB just made a statement in the internet poker thread
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07-27-2009, 01:58 AM
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#122
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Merge! FML on ELG, enough, for now
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
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Originally Posted by Nofx Fan
No offence to Pitbullblows but can we please get a mod to do an ip check and make sure he is not Dave Brenes or anyone at the company.
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Ananthar (mod)stated in the Internet Poker thread that they are unique ip's both from Costa Rica, FWIW
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07-27-2009, 02:07 AM
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#123
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PitBull Poker Customer Support
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 160
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Guys,
Ok this is now getting out of hand and you are taking this too far away.
Jeremy is a nickname from before in my personal life, I always liked and I used it to open my first Skype account, that was all. I am not hiding behind a fake name, and second, Bluff LA has nothing to do with anything here, I write articles as freelance and for free for them. Leave them be as they do not relate to me in any other way.
I do not have any ownership on any company and I was simply here to help, but you guys are making a storm our of a glass of water. Please stop inventing excuses and allegations.
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
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07-27-2009, 02:19 AM
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#124
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: back at SportsCentral
Posts: 1,847
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
pbdave would you address the main concerns of the forum if there was some mod or respected individual acting as mediator so that there would be no personal attacks and nonsensical posts. regardless of whether the accusations are true or not, non-transparency is not good for your company and many, if not most, of the 2+2 community would just rather assume shadiness than support and play at your site.
for me personally, I really have yet to see any hard evidence as to cheating although the recent actions of Pitbull do seem to sway towards some sort of shady activity.
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07-27-2009, 02:39 AM
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#125
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PitBull Poker Customer Support
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 160
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Guys,
Yes, personal attacks, witch hunting (I must add) and nonsensical posts are getting way too much... I think many here are just getting a chance to speak out for the sake of saying something and be part of the mayhem. I don't really appreciate the attitude the people is taking towards me and I don't feel I have disrespected anyone here to be the target of insults and speculations about who I am and what I do.
If you focus on the real issue of this wretched story it's a bunch of HHs requested by two players, one long ago and one recently. The first one was requested from day 1 and since then it has not been on my power to make it happen, it was on the hands of the DB manager. I am nobody's boss here to distribute the priorities of the tasks, so for several reasons the HH request was not on the top of the list as we were focusing the technical efforts on other projects. Added to that, such request was not easy to perform by our DB given the way the archive server works and the format we programmed. As for the most recent, when request was made, we simply followed up a policy which is not sending HHs, especially that large, because it is not a service we have available, reason why players could get them from the poker room.
I do understand the non-transparency issue and how important is, but it is not a decision I make. I hope you all calm down and get back to your senses and realize all I have been here is to provide one more venue of support to players. I am sorry to close it, but you guys leave me no choice with the attitude.
I will request the HHs tomorrow, but I cannot guarantee they will be processed and when would they be processed as it is not within my power to decide that.
Thanks,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
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07-27-2009, 03:28 AM
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#126
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veteran
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,388
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Dave,
1. Some of the guys in this thread said that their hand histories were suddenly no longer available at all. Is this true and if so why?
2. Don't you realise that it's in your best interests to make sure your bosses know of these allegations and to act accordingly by producing the hand histories? 2+2 is a huge part of the online poker community and while you keep providing lame excuses as to why you can't produce HH's then the worse it will get for you.
Someone has already offered to look privately at these, a mod I believe, and to take a 100% non biased viewpoint. Take him up on this.
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07-27-2009, 03:37 AM
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#127
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: run bad
Posts: 848
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
i should go deposit on pit bull right now might be only chance to get a few days of non rigged online poker in
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07-27-2009, 03:48 AM
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#128
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enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 63
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
New as I am to posting on 2+2 ... I'll vouch for pitbullblows. He's did work for pitbull, and he is not anyone from pb.
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07-27-2009, 04:43 AM
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#129
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Merge! FML on ELG, enough, for now
Posts: 7,597
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Yea, thanks lady. Just wanted to make sure because Dave said he was no longer gonna post, and didn't want someone who "looked" like they were on the players side yet could have been leading us in wrong directions. Adanthar pretty much stated they are different people, well he obv didn't say that but unique ip's can be one indication that they are different people.
By the way,thanks for joining this thread, Pitbullblows
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07-27-2009, 10:09 AM
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#130
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PitBull Poker Customer Support
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 160
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Hi,
I don't know if it is true or not that they could not access their HH, if it happened, it must have happened to everyone and must have been a tech issue I was not made aware of.
FYI I only use this one forum account, I don't need to fabricate other users and I don't need to pretend I am someone else. HOwever I could be thinking the same from existing users or others that have previously been banned for making false statements against us.
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
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07-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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#131
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banned
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 14
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
If anyone is interested LadyH has pictures of the owners of PB
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07-27-2009, 11:16 AM
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#132
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,021
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
pitbullblows, to your knowledge, is there only one company office in Costa Rica, or more than one?
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07-27-2009, 12:15 PM
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#133
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 386
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
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Originally Posted by Neil S
But still, hand histories were available until very recently, right? There should be enough data to confirm or deny more than just suspicions, right?
Spend more time writing about that than about what web servers are being used, seriously.
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I tried to get hand histories and they showed me playing at limits like $200/$400 as well as $1/$2, and everything in between and yet, the highest stakes I ever played was $2/$5 and some tournaments.
When I requested specific HH's, I was told that I would have them ASAP. Then, it was 3 days, which turned into 7 days, etc.
Bottom line, the HH's never came and I cashed out from the site (luckily no problems getting my money). However, the FREE $10 sign-up bonus was never earned or credited and it was advertised as a bonus you didn't have to qualify for - simply $10 FREE for trying.
The site is BS and I'm glad I learned it early on and moved on.
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07-27-2009, 12:25 PM
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#134
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 730
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
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Originally Posted by pbdave
Hi,
I don't know if it is true or not that they could not access their HH, if it happened, it must have happened to everyone and must have been a tech issue I was not made aware of.
FYI I only use this one forum account, I don't need to fabricate other users and I don't need to pretend I am someone else. HOwever I could be thinking the same from existing users or others that have previously been banned for making false statements against us.
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
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oh just a coincidence im sure....your site is done champ...look for a new job
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07-27-2009, 12:28 PM
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#135
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Charlotte
Posts: 386
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Re: Pitbull Poker potential cheating scandal
Quote:
Originally Posted by pbdave
Hi,
I don't know if it is true or not that they could not access their HH, if it happened, it must have happened to everyone and must have been a tech issue I was not made aware of.
Regards,
Dave Brenes
Network Manager
Pitbull Poker
Pitbull Partners
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Dave, you have said on the other hreads that HH's are easy to retrieve, then you changed that stance to say that they are the responsibility of the tech department and are difficult to retrieve, and now you are acting as if there could be an issue you weren't aware of??
There are at least two posters who have corresponded with you over a lengthy period of time asking for HH's, and you given them both the run around.
A very simple question - Why is obtaining HH's so difficult, and why are they not being made available? Answer this question satisfactorily and a lot of the suspicions will be put at ease. So far, you've danced around the question and have changed the story several times.
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