Cliffnotes?

Flash makes it safe.

Goodbye Jeremy...Err excuse me I mean Dave.

chesterboy - I'm confused about something. If you and some others were regular props with a special rakeback deal, how would you guys not know immediately if they had hired a sweatshop of colluders to jump on every table and squeeze the fish dry? I mean, this site has like 40 active players on average.

They weren't colluding. They were seeing our cards. Pots were rarely multiway and they never ever did any squeeze plays these were the most passive games you have ever seen.

Someone thinks something happened at pitbull poker(?) but it seems they have no evidence to back up their claims.

Well, I was using that term figuratively. So you are saying that the alleged sweatshop and the alleged superusers, are in your opinion, the same?

Yes, a sweatshop of superusers if you can believe that. We are working to confirm the story.

That would explain them all playing the same very simple style, not even optimal if you were a superuser who knew how to play.

This is gonna be another blackeye for online poker if true, and even though they are a nobody in the business, the media will make a big deal out of it, and then we'll get some more Kentucky/Montana stuff again where some politicians will try to block access.

I used to work with Pitbull and I can confirm they hired people that worked for them in their office in San Pedro (suburb of San Jose - Costa Rica) to start tables at the time they did not take any real action their only task was to get tables started but knowing Kevin Baronowski's greed there is no doubt that he later had them see hole cards too. Please also see this post at 4flush http://www.4flush.com/online-poker/s...=1711#post1711

It could actually be a good thing, might show that banning it forces players to play on shady unregulated sites run by questionable characters.

If you want to bring them down send your complaints to:
http://www.treppides.com/contact.html they handle their company in Cyprus
http://dragonara.net/contact.html their hosting provider
http://www.amigotechs.com/www2/en/contact.php their casino software provider for www.pitbullcasino.com

Pitbull was actually one of the domains in the Kentucky case

I find it interesting that there is a June 2009 article in Bluff Latinamerica, written by David Brenes, titled:

"Sistemas de Seguridad y Antifraude utilizados por las salas en línea"

(Security and Antifraud Systems Used by Online Gaming Rooms)


The content of this article will help us in determining the capacity in which David "Dave" Brenes was really involved in illegal Pitbull Poker operations. If anyone already has, or gets, an online subscription to this magazine, feel free to PM me. I'll gladly translate the article for the rest of TwoPlusTwo.

Also, Bluff Latinamerica likely has current contact information for David Brenes and his associates, which could be valuable in the near future.