First, I apologize for not placing this in the DN/Ivey Bracelet Bet thread but it is flooded with a bunch of guys placing/revoking $100 bets on the tourney every 5 seconds.

I was just thinking about this and am curious about what others think. I have heard Ivey and Negreanu have $300k in action on these bets. This current number is completely irrelevant to what I am speculating. If this number was significantly higher, say $3 million, if Ivey goes into heads up close chips to Yamron, do you thing there is ANY chance he would try to strike a deal to make the Yamron throw the tourney? I would have to say no because even if there were to discuss it on a break...

1) People would see them discussing the matter and curious why they are even speaking to one another...leading others to quickly speculate they were making a deal

2) If Ivey renegged on the compensation, what could the Yamron do?

3) Ivey and Negreanu would BOTH have to be willing to perform this scummy act and each put up what Yamron demands. The difference in payout is $64k. I think Negreanu and Ivey (IF they were willing to do this) would give him an extra $100k each in addition to the $103,375 he would receive. That would be a total of $303,375, almost double the first place amount. I suppose if Negreanu was not willing, Ivey could still do it on his own and shell out double.

I think the only way it would work is if it went into a day 4 due to time constraints. Ivey would then be able to approach Yamron or have somebody he knows/trusts work out the deal with him and perhaps have a trusted middle man escrow the funds until the match is thrown.

I am very curious on people's thoughts about this. I also want to hear what people think Yamron would want (dollar wise) in total to throw the tourney.

In regards to who would be the trusted middle man, I would have to suggest Michael Borovetz. In cash of course.

It honestly looked like yamrom was dumping to ivey.

No. Lol. No.

Just b/c someone lost quick doesn't mean he was dumping. Limits were big.

I'd say very good chance yamrom was paid more than the jump of the 2nd to 1st place prize to lose. Very shady heads up.

Or maybe you know, Phil Ivey could rely on the skill that has earned him 10 gold bracelets and millions of dollars in cash/tournaments.

Who cares anyway, that possibility was clearly evident before the bets were made so it's just a risk you would take.

Yamrom 15 years experience veteran etc and then just check calls a few streets then folds. Raise re raise fold. A 15 year pro would know their best opportunity against ivey is to get it in preflop in no limit holdem with close to 50% equity. That was dumping lock.

you can't fold to holdem when it's 8 game

I understand that but he was letting ivey run him over.

Last hand is a terrible example if you are trying to cite dumping.

Ivey was already like a 5 to 1 chip leader stealing pots. The damage had already been done.

Yeah, Ivey never did that to anyone before. Must have been collusion.

ive had a set of 22s that were hidden in the hole, bruce had two pair obviously, hard to get away from

and is getting it on his bust out hand with a super strong hand, just got outdrawn on the turn

durrrr obviously didnt do this when he had significantly more money on the line in the NLHE event that he lost, why would Ivey risk his rep and the payouts for something that is relatively small

In 2 days hes playing a $1mil tourney, his winnings here dont account for 30% of the buyin

You know this how?

And why is this always the answer lol

In a mix game people always want to double in holdem because they can look to get 40-50% equity

Is that not possible in mix games? Is one hand in every 9 of stud a 80%+ favourite?

Its quite possible to have a hand with 50% equity (or even more ) in stud and omaha games

If he has 300k of action at even money, hes winning 300k, which is less than 30% of 1 million dollars

DN Tweeted they had 200k in action actually, so the total number is up for debate, but I'd be surprised if it was 400k or more

Ivey is the Stone Cold Nutz BRAH!

I don't see any evidence that anything shady happened here. I do think that in general people are pretty naive about making side bets in situations where the side action becomes quite large relative to what's being played though.

Phil Ivey raised from the button and Bruce Yamron called from the big blind. The flop came down and Yamron checked. Ivey continued out for a bet and Yamron called.

The dropped down on the turn and Yamron checked again. Ivey fired out, Yamron came over the top with a raise and Ivey quickly made it three bets to go. Yamron called and the finished off the board. Yamron checked, Ivey bet, and Yamron let it go.

If you guys had been watching the stream for the previous few hours you'd have seen that Yamron is super tight. I mean super tight. He folded a few spots in Stud8 and O8 that were automatic raises to everyone else. Gave way too many walks etc.

Could Ivey have done some shady deal? It's possible but not even remotely probable. Ivey just steam rolled the guy.

CHEA!

he tank folded after the river brought the 3rd heart on board with no low

Quit making excuses who bet vs. ivey/neg u fish

Grasping at straws I see.