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View Poll Results: Is PI worth as much as DN?
Yes 112 20.63%
No - He's not worth as much 245 45.12%
No - He's worth more 186 34.25%
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:15 PM   #1
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Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

Would it be a wise investment for Pokerstars to pay Phil Ivey as much as Daniel Negreanu even if he does not relocate?

Just using him in adverts and patching him up at some live tourneys.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:19 PM   #2
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

I am pretty sure PS will not sign Phil Ivey
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:20 PM   #3
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

This is all just hypothetical
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:23 PM   #4
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

I would argue more people know Phil Ivey, mainly from his spot on ESPN and the Main Event FT he made... but DN is better for PS as he seems to be more willing to be more open to the public/interviews/ect... They are both massively +EV for anyone who can sign them though.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:28 PM   #5
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

Negreanu is taking on a lesser role at Stars in the last 6-12 months:
-no longer "the face" of Pokerstars
-not performing/playing well
-primarily US based
-doesn't appear in new TV ads
-Elky/Mercier/Selbst/Boeree/Katchalov taking on bigger roles
-small profile on the web-site

Negreanu's not worth as much as you think he is and if he can't turn it around how much longer will they give him?
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:30 PM   #6
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

He's still in the advert they show before the PCA and EPT shows in the UK, or is this not running anymore?
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:31 PM   #7
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

They are gonna get much more out of DN than Ivey, as far as all the promotional stuff he does, television, etc... But also, people can still play online with DN on Stars, Ivey will basically just wear a hat and god it up at tournaments, which is still valuable, but DN brings way more to the table imo
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:35 PM   #8
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

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This is all just hypothetical
oh, thanks for clearing that up
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:36 PM   #9
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

Daniel is far more marketable. He's a personable guy who's willing to do more interviews and put himself out there. Ivey is way more closed off and just focused on money. He's valuable as a skillful player and for railbirds, but not really a big marketable personality.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:36 PM   #10
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

I'm not a fan of either of them but, DN is by far the better ambassador and he's far more popular with the fish that I know.

Ivey is known as the best by many, he's still a ******* though and thus worth less imo
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:37 PM   #11
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

hellmuth is better then both of them as a face of a company
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:38 PM   #12
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

hypotheticaly:

Seriously? DN is worth more public relation wise.

Of course, opinions vary....
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:40 PM   #13
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

I think Teddy Monroe has more value to Pstars than Ivey.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:53 PM   #14
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I think Teddy Monroe has more value to Pstars than Ivey.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:00 PM   #15
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Re: Is Phil Ivey worth as much to Pokerstars as Daniel Negreanu?

Nope.

Daniel is the most media savvy poker player ever. People also trust him.
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