Phil Ivey wins 7.3m GBP in London, casino refuses to pay. Ivey sues. Loses Case. Appeals. Loses - Page 6 - Poker News

Lol hit and run, in a 150k hand game that mostly revolves around luck, why would someone, who makes a few million in a short time not hit and run, but instead risk it all in the next half hour

You do realize they give FREE drinks when you gamble right bro? that is the obv reason! duh!

10-07-2012 , 05:06 AM

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Mecastyles

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How do you call this man a degen when he completely crushes all forms of gambling ?

you cannot crush pitgames

10-07-2012 , 05:08 AM

#128

xmykro

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Van Leks

I lol at all the people calling Ivey a degen.

17m tourney winnings,

20m online cash game winnings

always ahead in the pits

not counting his live cash winnings

How do you call this man a degen when he completely crushes all forms of gambling ?

Well obviously he is not ahead in all forms of gambling if he had to borrow $5m from FTP, and couldn't pay it back. We only hear about his big wins, never about the massive losses.

10-07-2012 , 05:10 AM

#129

Kozaa

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is he..... getting old?

also pay his money you ****faces

10-07-2012 , 05:15 AM

#130

0mar Comin

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...l-inquiry.html

10-07-2012 , 05:15 AM

#131

needsumthin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecastyles

you cannot crush pitgames

you obviously do not know who Phil Ivey is!

and...9 pages and still the most important question has not been asked?wtf? BEAUTIFUL ASIAN WOMAN...where the **** was BarryG!?!? obv not true if BarryG not mentioned...

also...in b4 it is revealed casino manager and owner have between $3.50 and $350 locked up on FTP!

10-07-2012 , 05:16 AM

#132

mumpfmampf

old hand

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Quote:

Originally Posted by super_dave31

does make me wonder tho how much phil ivey received as part of Full Tilt. I mean to be gambling at those stakes. I know he wasnt part of Lederer and Ferguson, but i sure bet hes got a lot of money that shouldnt be his.

Lets say you take away his entire full tilt money, what would his bank roll be? 10m? 15m? Sure its hell of a lot of money, but even 15m is not enough money to be having sessions of 3m etc.. soo like i said, makes me wonder how much he got from Full Tilt

i guess you must have missed the "world dice tour" on poker road lol

those who follow the "life of ivey" have seen him gamble for millions multiple times

10-07-2012 , 05:17 AM

#133

r e m o r a

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10-07-2012 , 05:19 AM

#134

needsumthin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by xmykro

Well obviously he is not ahead in all forms of gambling if he had to borrow $5m from FTP, and couldn't pay it back. We only hear about his big wins, never about the massive losses.

isnt it pretty understood the loans were so he could have "virtual funds" to put into play at the virtual felt at FTP? (as opposed to him being broke and in need of a loan/stake/bankroll) I also thought that its likely (some of)these loans were for loans to durrrr and other players to play Isildur1...so I'd also assume (some of)the loans would also be for other player transfers to play online...HOW wrong am i with these statements?

10-07-2012 , 05:21 AM

#135

MaybeYesMaybeNo

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looks like the black friday for punto banco players.

10-07-2012 , 05:23 AM

#136

MaybeYesMaybeNo

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it is black friday for Punto Banko players. Rest assured your funds are safe and secure in Kuala lumpur!

10-07-2012 , 05:27 AM

#137

revealske

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LOL. Ivey taking them to the cleaners haha

10-07-2012 , 05:30 AM

#138

jeflax

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"Mr Ivey, who once picked up £10 million in a poker tournament in Las Vegas"
wait, what?

10-07-2012 , 05:36 AM

#139

mumpfmampf

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Originally Posted by bazaro

I like how a lot of people are assuming FTP money that Ivey received is a large part of his bankroll and allowed him to play those ultra high stakes games and more importantly have a care-free/idgaf about money attitude about it that upsets people on this forum. While its probably true for some of the other ftp pros and visible on poker after dark and such, its definitely not true for Ivey/Antonius given how much we know they have won.

From the famous anecdotes, to his demeanor, and records, we can assume Ivey has a ridiculous bankroll. Ivey beat some of the best online players (Gandolf, hoss_tbf type ppl in addition to the regs) for 20M+, and he was known to be gambing very high before FTP became big.

Should Ivey deserve the flak for not giving a **** about FTP on the business side, missing all the board meetings etc? yes. But I highly doubt Ivey was thinking when playing these games post-BF, oh **** FTP they gave me so much its just a freeroll or smth along those lines

I think you´ve just fallen for the ridiculous PR crap we all have been fed by the poker companies. For one, Ivey was paid out like 10 million a year by FTP. Don´t you think that kind of money would have been a MAJOR part of his income in those years? Also, having this kind of passive income only made it possible for him to play those lol huge games (FTP/High Stakes Poker etc etc). So OBVIOUSLY, no matter how good a player he is, the income from FTP played a massive part in how much money he actually made. I would be a lot of money that his bankroll is below 8 figures these days, thanks to his costly divorce, huge degen habits etc etc.

Not talking conspiracy here, but I think it´s kind of interesting to see how the guy who absolutely demolished nosebleeds on his own site now turned into a break-even/slightly losing reg on Pokerstars (same for Antonius obviously).

10-07-2012 , 05:40 AM

#140

coolnout

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still no "beautiful Oriental woman" pics

FAIL THREAD #2

10-07-2012 , 05:47 AM

#141

Extreme Ways

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Greedy Casino Pigs

10-07-2012 , 05:53 AM

#142

bazaro

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I'm pretty sure they said he made 500k/month for 5 yrs or something, which amounts to 30M

You're also forgetting live cash games, where every high stakes reg has said he absolutely crushes, and probably has made a significant chunk

We have no idea if he plays on stars, RaiseOnce shows several characteristics that are different from ivey, even if he has a couple of similarities/coincidences, there's just no way we can know for sure

Antonius has won tons of money online on euro sites as well, i'm not sure i understand your point, he has a ton of aliases and i'm sure if you tracked all of them throughout the past 10 yrs, the amt he has won would make his compenssastion pale in comparison

You can criticize them for not playing an active role (well, you can't criticize antonius since he was added very late in the whole scheme of things), but I'm not sure its fair to say they are playing these stakes with abandon exclusively or mostly because they are receiving this money

10-07-2012 , 05:58 AM

#143

synth_floyd

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What goes around comes around.

But it does seem like the casino doesn't want to pay just cause it's a lot of money. ****ing casinos, they'll take all your money no problem but if you win a lot of their money suddenly there's a big conspiracy and they need to triple check everything and launch investigations.

10-07-2012 , 06:01 AM

#144

botweaver

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bazaro

That's why phil ivey is the stone cold nuts, he truly does not care about money

thats why he wasn't upset when FTP went down

10-07-2012 , 06:01 AM

#145

88keyz

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lol dat t-shirt

10-07-2012 , 06:03 AM

#146

BoyanD

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I wonder how much he told mommy about the FTP situation

10-07-2012 , 06:04 AM

#147

SooperFish24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by timex

His mother, Pamela Ivey, who lives in Las Vegas, said: ‘He never mentioned it.
It can’t have been very important to him, or I think he’d have mentioned it.’

So

****ing

Gangster

The very definition of "Baller".

10-07-2012 , 06:05 AM

#148

jeflax

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kozaa

is he..... getting old?

LOL

10-07-2012 , 06:18 AM

#149

shaunc7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecastyles

you cannot crush pitgames

..... +1

10-07-2012 , 06:20 AM

#150

Dak9885

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bazaro

I'm pretty sure they said he made 500k/month for 5 yrs or something, which amounts to 30M

You're also forgetting live cash games, where every high stakes reg has said he absolutely crushes, and probably has made a significant chunk

We have no idea if he plays on stars, RaiseOnce shows several characteristics that are different from ivey, even if he has a couple of similarities/coincidences, there's just no way we can know for sure

Antonius has won tons of money online on euro sites as well, i'm not sure i understand your point, he has a ton of aliases and i'm sure if you tracked all of them throughout the past 10 yrs, the amt he has won would make his compenssastion pale in comparison

You can criticize them for not playing an active role (well, you can't criticize antonius since he was added very late in the whole scheme of things), but I'm not sure its fair to say they are playing these stakes with abandon exclusively or mostly because they are receiving this money

like what

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