This forum is bizarre at times. Anyone hating on Lex Veldhuis(sp) for the KJ hand is so stupid it makes my eyes water.
What you saw, and what you are often seeing when Ivey is involved, is a top-quality or even world-class player being countered by the absolute creme' de la creme'. You're not seeing Ivey outplaying a donk, cus anyone who gets to play Ivey in a cash-game is more successful than NVG trolls will ever be.
People are so stupid it makes my dick shrivel.
Before the 2010 World Series Phil Ivey and Howard Lederer reportedly made a bet of at least $5 million that Ivey would win 2 bracelets in the next 2 years (might've been 3 years). Well we all know what happened....Ivey wins 1 in 2010 and Lederer made off with all our loot and Ivey boycotted 2011. How should this bet be resolved? What's their obligations as gamblers even if they are not speaking? Should Ivey get a pass for 2011? When Lederer "pretends" to be broke with no chance of raking in $40 million a year again what should happen?
I think the other most important thing about Ivey is the man literally has an aura surrounding him. Ask anyone.
It doesn't matter what he does. Kind of like how Patrik Antonius can 4-bet A2o and flop A22 vs. AK. He does ****, and it just works, except on a whole other level. People try to bluff him but never in good spots and they always end up in some ****ed position vs. him facing some ridiculous spot and raise.
I'm probably getting these stories confused cuz one was Mastr in LA and one was JC Alvarado, don't know where so forgive for mixing details. Anyone one of them was at some aggro talkative table. Ivey walks up and everyone just stops talking and looks scared. For the rest of the day, everyone is just staring at Ivey, watching him. He really has an aura, like everyone just watches everything he does and immediately looks away if they come close to making eye contact.
He just plays every hand and tramples people, in between hands he slouches in his chair and texts away, occasionally throwing chips into the pot while texting. Cuz who the **** is gonna break out the rule book on him anyway?
At some point this big black dudes walks up to him and hes carrying a buncha bags and he gives them to Ivey and leaves. Ivey pulls a belt out of one and just puts it on. Keep in mind literally every person at the table is staring at him all the time, and most of the people who aren't in a hand in a close proximity.
He takes his watch off, this $80k watch, opens the bag, and pulls out some lotion. And he puts lotion on his wrist where he was wearing the watch. Slowly applying it while everyone watches transfixed. Then he puts the watch back on, goes back into a bag, and grabs a thing of gummy bears and starts putting them in his mouth. Then he turns his head and looks my friend right in the eye, as though just noticing that everyone in the room is staring at him and never even considering that he was doing an abnormal thing. And he pulls a gummy bear out, holds it up to him, and goes "ya want one?"
I think your rap in the booth earlier should be typed out for everyone. Just sayin'.