on the gambling with an edge podcast she confirmed it was the Crockfords win that ended their run basically, they were up a few million and she wanted to leave but Ivey said no, she said they got up about 5-6million and he still wouldn't leave he wanted to win $20million "ivey is greedy" he lost a lot to Crockfords in the past and wanted to keep going, also Kelly is still in action

Sorry? This podcast makes clear that they were at it for ages, took lots and lots of casinos and kept playing as much as possible because they thought they might get sussed.

How given that they got millions and millions can you still think there is a "freeroll" issue with the casinos. Oh we lost gazillions just to set him up for us refusing one final payout (Crockfords) and to sue for our money back (Borgata).

Freeroll my arse, can we finally put that in the not a real thing box.

it's still a freeroll. Crockfords didn't pay, and what he did at other casinos doesn't matter, because Crockfords doesn't own them. Each instance is a discrete instance of the situation, it's not continuous.

Chad Millman had one of the ESPN producers associated with the 30 for 30 on his "Behind the Bets" podcast this week. A lot of re-hashing stuff most of us have probably heard before but still worth a listen. One new story I hadn't previously heard was the first time Kelly and Phil played (in AUS apparently), they lost big and Phil thought Kelly and their mutual friend were hustling him.

This wasn't in the 30 for 30 but mentioned in the podcast - it sounds like most of the security consultants / insiders all tended to agree, publicly or not, that the situation wasn't "cheating" since the casino agreed to all the requested rule modifications and Ivey/Kelly weren't physically touching the cards.

One minor thing that tilted me a little was, when discussing all the special terms the casino agreed to (not turning the cards, Chinese dealer, keeping the same deck, etc.), the ESPN producer kept implying the dealer was allowing all of this. A dealer would never have the authority to grant those requests... especially for someone placing six-figure bets. That approval would have to come from much higher up. Again, very small thing, but the inaccuracy of that bugged me a little.

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Pit Boss for certain and almost certainly the Casino Manager.

Unless they can prove the dealer was involved or Ivey et al was connected to someone at the playing-card manufacturer, I can't see anything Ivey did that would not entitle him to the money he won playing under rules approved by the casino.

The Potawatomi Indian casino in Milwaukee WI is less than two miles from Milwaukee City Hall. It is not smack in the middle of downtown, but is close. The Potawatomi Indian Reservation is located in northern WI near Green Bay WI, more than 100 miles from Milwaukee. The Potawatomi tribe owns a 6.95 acre plot of land in Milwaukee, on which their casino is located.