Phil Hellmuth Fanboy thread

[Spimp]

So i had alot of time on my hands today and did some stupid research. All data is from Hendon Mob. There is a slight variance in numbers becuase I may have added a a couple tourny buy in's twice but it should be pretty damn close. Only events included are 'open' so no ladies, seniors or employee events. This is including, and through the ME this year and assuming no cash in ME this year.

Since PH Main Event Win:

Phils total WSOP winnings: $6,054,988

Total entry $'s if PH played EVERY event since he won: $1,957,500

Total ROI if PH played EVERY event since he won: 209.32%

Total per event $'s for EVERY event since he won: $10,604.18

Avg buy in per tourny: $3428.19

Total events since he won: 571

Avg events per year: 28.55 (avg of about 19/year during all of 90's)

Few more tidbits. For some reason not as many events in '99. 2005 was the year the 10k World Championships in many other events started. 2006 was
50k HORSE so that also inflated buy-in numbers. If you assume he only played 90% of those tourny's his ROI= 243.63%. If he played 80% of them his ROI is 286.49%.

These numbers are flat-out sick. We know he cant possibly play EVERY event per year so which makes them even better. I dont think he is the best player in the world. I do think he is one of the best tournament players ever though. When it comes to poker, he is rude, arragant, childish, selfish and.... +++EV!!

[Jenkem]

[Arvid2k7]

hes a donk

[jimi1999uk]

Indeed! Poor level.
"We know he cant possibly play EVERY event per year."

[nintendere]

good thread, thanks for the research. Nobody can argue this numbers, over such a long period it's just fantastic. What you can argue about is his behavior at the table but I believe everybody has made his mind up on that already.

However, I wish him good luck in the Main Event. If he makes another deep run like last year it will only be good for the poker world.

[VectorWega]

There is no question that Hellmuth is the best NLHE tournament player. Only donkeys and idiots from Northern Europe believe otherwise.

[technologic]

but how much did he lose to ivey in insurance

[where da ho go]

i can almost guarantee that phil has put up way more in buy ins that that

[F Retard]

GTFO with "I can almost guarantee he's spent more than that on buy-ins"

Fact is he is a winning player and it will only increase his popularity and media coverage if you internet 5 dollar sit n go grinders keep hating on him.

Take an example from all the top name pros who will always agree he is a great tourney player and is not that bad at cash...He's one that has been able to stay at the top for longer than most pros who fall off and then you never hear from them again.


Oh ya, in b4 "ultimate bet buys him into every event thats why he's in the black"

[ArcadianSky]

in before that "jojoh07" queer.

[craigmd]

now work out ivey and put him to shame

[FetterSven]

ivey numbers must be sick

[R3AG4N]

His association with Ultimate bet says it all for me.

[1outter]

Small sample size. Get back to us, OP, when you actually have some data.

[meow_meow]

I don't think those numbers are going to be surprising to anyone.

I don't think anyone would suggest that PH is -EV in tourneys.

I don't understand why anyone would be a PH fanboy.