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12-11-2011 , 06:22 AM

#126

ArtySmokes

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They didn't pay him enough g-bucks and wouldn't let him wear his pirate outfit in the office, imo.

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12-11-2011 , 06:26 AM

#127

Gazillion

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Paging Krantz

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12-11-2011 , 06:30 AM

#128

AntiHer0

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Galfond IS bfp

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12-11-2011 , 06:38 AM

#129

Rob1543

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Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,414

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Bummer. I've long wondered how coaching sites are faring post BF. Hope they can keep business going.

I think it's largely dependent on how players are doing. Not great but surviving and recovering.

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12-11-2011 , 06:40 AM

#130

2DMB2LIV

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Wow, there's (was) definitely a big conflict at hand given Phil's twitter about not being able to post videos, etc...

And WTF @ Don's post about Niman! Always thought Niman was a stand-up guy, this really goes to show that you never ever know.

Reposting because WHAT THE ****!

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

Well, it seems as if Bluefire is ending today or in the near future. Seems as appropriate a time as any to share a story from the beginning of the site. Phil Galfond was the lead instructor, but not involved in any of the details I'm about to share. Right after launch, there was a buzz about BFP. The site seemed like a big success and myself and the other Bluefire pros felt we were underpaid. We decided to have a skype group and discuss if we wanted to go to managment and re-negotiate our contracts. Niman, in particular, was very convincing when he told us our value and how underpaid we were. He suggested we re-negotiate and all take the same % as one another, a significant increase for all involved. Niman instructed us that we don't talk to the owner directly, rather, we'd talk to him as a group.

After sending out an e-mail to management about our raise, no one talked to the owner alone. That is, everyone but Niman Kenkre. He was playing both sides, orchestrating our union and talking to the owner behind our backs. At one point, he even asked, "What's Martin getting? We don't need him. Give me my original contract and whatever you're giving Martin and I'll sign right now". Giggy is really cool, so I'm glad this didn't happen. He then let the owner know that he could break up the group, if he give in to his demands. They came to an agreement. Niman then came to the group, letting us know that it was unlikely that we were getting a raise and we should all back off. The union disbanded.

Needless to say, I felt very betrayed.

Don Nguyen

Thanks Phil for all the advice and genuine care about your members, now that you're leaving, that site has about 2 days to live lol

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12-11-2011 , 06:47 AM

#131

xXDeuce7Xx

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Videos downloaded and subscription cancelled, gg BFP.

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12-11-2011 , 06:51 AM

#132

Sedeete

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sketchy. AFAIK phil was the glue holding BFP together, so i dont think there's any chance the site will go on without him (or it might, but wont be profitable at all).

I hope that they come up with some kind of arrangment for all the people that just registered to the site for Phil's videos (let's be honest.) because that would just suck to just pay for 6months and the guy you're here for is quitting.

More behind the scenes stories too please, would like to understand what all this is about.

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12-11-2011 , 06:59 AM

#133

unomaas

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"page not found" now...

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12-11-2011 , 07:00 AM

#134

2DMB2LIV

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X-posting Don "SoCalQuest" Nguyen's post:

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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest

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12-11-2011 , 07:06 AM

#135

Victor Kros

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Lol just read Niman Kenkre's bio on his site. He sure likes to brag.

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12-11-2011 , 07:07 AM

#136

ServerBTest002

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Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 562

lol I planned to subscribe in January...

I think even if I sign up now my money will be lost and I cannot download many vids

sick

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12-11-2011 , 07:14 AM

#137

Banimal

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LOL giggys videos absolutely s h 1 t on nimans

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12-11-2011 , 07:15 AM

#138

_And1_

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GG Phil

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12-11-2011 , 07:23 AM

#139

Kesky

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Phil, take Giggy and two or three more coaches that you really rate with you, and open a new site. You can release 2 vids per month, with the other coaches doing likewise. I'd definitely be willing to pay.*

* please don't take Leatherass with you, though

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12-11-2011 , 07:26 AM

#140

atisz

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I'd like to see a 200/400 HU video against Ilari.

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12-11-2011 , 07:28 AM

#141

BoterSmoter

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If BFP doesn't hire a new highstakes/nosebleeds player I'm probably not keeping my subscription. The ratio MTT/SNG vids:Good cash games vids is way out a whack for the last few months also.

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12-11-2011 , 07:30 AM

#142

ArChieBunKa

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if Niman really did that..wtf.. just keeps making poker players look worse and worse..can't trust anyone.. the fact that he thinks he is better, or more valuable than Giggy is pretty lawl imo.. sad guy and major d-bag if true

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12-11-2011 , 07:38 AM

#143

astrobel

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Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Bummer. I've long wondered how coaching sites are faring post BF. Hope they can keep business going.

I recently cancelled my membership with Cardrunners cos I felt the content was getting worse and worse after Black Friday. Not sure if there's a good training site out there at the moment.

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12-11-2011 , 07:39 AM

#144

wagamama

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Giggy = ThaGiggy on stars i suppose?

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12-11-2011 , 07:46 AM

#145

moki

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Originally Posted by BoterSmoter

If BFP doesn't hire a new highstakes/nosebleeds player I'm probably not keeping my subscription. The ratio MTT/SNG vids:Good cash games vids is way out a whack for the last few months also.

There's literally no one they can hire who plays high stakes/nosebleeds and is as articulate as Phil Galfond.

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12-11-2011 , 07:53 AM

#146

GloupnaktouK

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Originally Posted by moki

There's literally no one they can hire who plays high stakes/nosebleeds and is as articulate as Phil Galfond.

Jungleman, anyone?

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12-11-2011 , 08:00 AM

#147

DieHard

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Originally Posted by GloupnaktouK

Jungleman, anyone?

lol Jungleman isn't even close, back to leggo/cr now

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12-11-2011 , 08:01 AM

#148

AJF82

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hey phil if you read this you should start up your own site,you would get alot of customers and i bet alot of people here would put up a months fee to help get started with startup costs and things like that,anyway thanks for the great vids and good luck with anything you choose to do in the future.