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Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site (Launched) Phil Galfond to Start a Poker Site (Launched)

04-21-2017 , 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
Thread has turned moronic.
You're right. I will stop replying to trolls and hope others do too.
04-21-2017 , 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
lol saved by my govt
i have to play live and spend a ton on travel hotels etc to do so while clowns like you cry about paying 900 dollars to pay 14000 hands at cheeseburger stakes

25 dollar buy in plo playing poker for 10 years- yea you have poker all figured out.it's all the rake's fault you're trash at poker and some person will set up a poker site for you and intentionally minimize profit for your benefit any day now.

you also realize US players sucking is good for me right?

i mean if your argument is my gov't is trash you're right. you were bound to be right about something eventually.
I'd go into this but we both know you can't beat real poker players just your ******ed US fish donks that play in casinos! In fact I bet you can't even exploit those donks either!

Why don't you respond to this: "I want a fair, honest, transparent poker site that believes in the dream that I have lived.
I'm going to give it my best shot." Phil"

Is this a pipe dream too? Are you going to ridicule him too?
04-21-2017 , 03:50 PM
How on earth does Phil think this will work when wsex failed?
04-21-2017 , 03:59 PM
What makes you think he's going to go with the wsex model?
04-21-2017 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperMario7
I'd go into this but we both know you can't beat real poker players just your ******ed US fish donks that play in casinos! In fact I bet you can't even exploit those donks either!

Why don't you respond to this: "I want a fair, honest, transparent poker site that believes in the dream that I have lived.
I'm going to give it my best shot." Phil"

Is this a pipe dream too? Are you going to ridicule him too?

Lol fair.
Most regards don't care about fariness as long as the unfairness favors them.

Fair would be no seat scripts time take regs not getting dealt method of rakeback for years on etc.

Anyone who starts a poker site is doing so as a business plain and simple.

And your lack of common sense is showing- you're struggling to beat games where the buy in is often the same amount or less than my blinds. I'm perfectly content beating us morons at those stakes live while you struggle playing for loose change begging galfond for a handout.it woukd be one thing od you were playing for fun but the funny thing is you're actually taking pride at playing poker for years and being a piece of break even trash in a game 3rd graders could afford to play.keep giving Amaya that money rotting away at the tables genius.

I do wish I could only pay 900 dollars in rake per 140000 hands.That would be awesome.
04-21-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
What makes you think he's going to go with the wsex model?
I hope he doesn't, from what I've been reading if he goes that route it will fail.
04-22-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
almost no casino in the us has a single zero roulette wheel. even in ones who do people still play double zero. i've seen 6:5 bj tables packed next to empty 3:2 tables.
Presumably Las Vegas influence. Also AFAIK there still isn't the kind of thing there even now where someone can walk out of an office on Wall Street in Manhattan and stop in at a betting shop or hotel casino on their way to the railway station and then play a spin n go on their mobile while they wait for the train. The newer casinos still tend to be "destinations" for most of their customers rather than places in their regular lives.

As for Pokerstars though, they do offer single-zero roulette. Presumably they think losing roulette players are aware of house edge whereas losing poker players aren't?
04-22-2017 , 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperMario7
This is really the crux of it. How to break Stars's death grip on the poker world.

I guess there are a few options but ultimately it's anybody's guess if it will work or not.

One option is to get all the Pro's, semi pro's and rake back grinders, basically everybody that plays for a living. If you get these on board first, then you have yourself 10,20,30k (I don't know the exact number) players and you are instantly making money.

We let everybody at our tables know about this fantastic new poker site, we all spam our tables before we all leave.

Tables die down at other sites, tournament guarantees dwindle, recs start to wonder where everybody gone and slowly but surely follow suit!

Sure the games won't be good to start but give it some time and with the extra money the site generates Phil will be able to spend $$$ on advertising.

Another option is to go big and spend big. Advertise advertise advertise! Get some big pro's on board, twitch the whole 9 yards. Cost 100 Million minimum but if he's got investors it's doable.
Whoa, grasshopper .....why are you so sure Stars has a death grip on the poker world as technology evolves ?

https://www.highstakesdb.com/7635-ch...okerstars.aspx

Didn't the WSOP have a "death grip" on tournament poker 20 years ago.
04-22-2017 , 03:32 PM
Phil's the man if he can pull this one off!!!
04-27-2017 , 10:03 PM
Phil a new poker variant idea: make a game where you add an entire new suit. So 5 suits of deuces through aces. Deal 3 cards in the hole, use 2, and same hand strengths post flop. No limit.

The new suit can be a rake.
04-28-2017 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by borg23
I do wish I could only pay 900 dollars in rake per 140000 hands.
To be fair though as a live player you probably pay less money per hour of employee time spent serving you than the online players do.
04-28-2017 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gzesh
Whoa, grasshopper .....why are you so sure Stars has a death grip on the poker world as technology evolves ?

https://www.highstakesdb.com/7635-ch...okerstars.aspx

Didn't the WSOP have a "death grip" on tournament poker 20 years ago.
From the article:

"The apps themselves do not provide real money games; they simply provide the software and allow users to create their own “home games”... each “club” is started and operated by an agent. Each agent is then responsible for taking and tracking the deposits and cashouts for his players."


Agents collect and payout offline. Is this legal in Asia? Is it legal anywhere?
04-29-2017 , 04:16 AM
Legal, illegal, scheissegal...
04-30-2017 , 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tikmassy
Phil's the man if he can pull this one off!!!
I hope he does pull it off.

Not looking too good out of the gate though if takes this long from announcement to day 1 signups.... probably shouldn't have announced at all until the platform was ready
04-30-2017 , 04:36 AM
They didn't really have a choice - there were already rumours as there was a company name and they were hiring people and had to say what for, etc.
04-30-2017 , 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by TopPair2Pair
I hope he does pull it off.

Not looking too good out of the gate though if takes this long from announcement to day 1 signups.... probably shouldn't have announced at all until the platform was ready
lol not sure what kind of logic this is, but no one outside of the poker community (people who will use it regardless) knows or cares at all about this site. A soft announcement on a forum post has no effect on the eventual success/failures of this site.
04-30-2017 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
They didn't really have a choice - there were already rumours as there was a company name and they were hiring people and had to say what for, etc.
the assertion is you cant start a company and hire people unless you make a public statement. huh?

They certainly had a choice and decided to announce the site very very early.

whether that was good play or not I have no idea, but don't agree they "had" to.

more importantly, still wondering where they are going to get licensed and from which countries they will be accepting bets. to me this is the most important aspect of the site for the time being.
04-30-2017 , 08:55 AM
If people already know they're making it, coming out and building anticipation is a better strategy than letting people wonder.
04-30-2017 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sciolist
If people already know they're making it, coming out and building anticipation is a better strategy than letting people wonder.
Why?
04-30-2017 , 09:30 AM
Because you get to influence what people talk about.
04-30-2017 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
the assertion is you cant start a company and hire people unless you make a public statement. huh?

They certainly had a choice and decided to announce the site very very early.

whether that was good play or not I have no idea, but don't agree they "had" to.

more importantly, still wondering where they are going to get licensed and from which countries they will be accepting bets. to me this is the most important aspect of the site for the time being.
Apparently all cash will be handled offline by agents that also recruit players.
04-30-2017 , 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PTLou
the assertion is you cant start a company and hire people unless you make a public statement. huh?
Depending on the space you are in, it's indeed at least somewhat likely people will find out and start asking.

There are people who make their living by checking what domain names are registered, what trademarks are filled for and who is hiring staff through websites like indeed.com, to figure out who is doing what.

Not saying that this project is big/important enough, but in general people will notice if a startup hires 50 developers for unknown reasons.
05-07-2017 , 05:36 PM
Anyone got an estimate when the site will launch?
05-07-2017 , 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tikmassy
Anyone got an estimate when the site will launch?
Not sure on the actual date but I am pretty sure it is going to be at 3:50pm.
05-07-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MikkeD
Not sure on the actual date but I am pretty sure it is going to be at 3:50pm.
Lol, I like it, three fiddy.

      
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