Originally Posted by Tom Hall
Sorry, wasn't supposed to be accusatory. I got what you were saying. got pissed at the comment made by the other guy. Got to stick with my friends, even more so when times are tough.
People from the States may not realize how loosely organized the tongs can be and how a rich guy who likes to gamble may have inevitably crossed paths with different outfits, despite clearly having no discernible connection to the group themselves.
Just because they may have crossed paths with shady characters and may even consider some personal friends, doesn't mean they are associated with any of their business.
My grandfather played cards and hunted ducks with people from all walks of life, including tong bosses and younger gang leaders, in SF Chinatown. He was a pharmacy owner, not a gangster.
People should stop mentioning that stuff in relation to these guys (unless they have some evidence beyond the statements of the press and equally sensationalistic US attorneys).