This!

The lobby with all the single person HU tables supermad4it posted really is pretty hilariously bad. I can confirm that Party is indeed a very poorly run company.

FWIW, it's what what every HU lobby on Eurosites looks like.

That's in big BB/100 so nearly -100bb/100.

Anybody against this is an absolute fool.

Nobody remembers how amazing the games were when 1-2 50bb was the max? Or the daily $60k pots in 10-20 plo because nobody could progress higher?

Fact is, high stakes games are bad for the site, pros, and fish if there isn't enough money in the economy. Everyone loses. Would you rather play a good 2-4 game or the nittiest 25-50? There's definitely a lot more money involved in consistently winning at 2-4.

I have been pleading with them for the last 4 years to do this. Even at the live VIP focus groups I've been invited to.

Btw, PokerStars is considering a similar move. They are considering restricting everything above 10-20 and limiting the amount of 10-20 tables. This would be a very good idea and would improve the health of their revenue, and our profits. It's also possible that 6 max tables are restricted as well in some formats.

Your logic makes no sense. Because they want to increase their revenue, they try to improve their product and game experience. This is bad how?

10% of people at least need to win for the games to be healthy. If 1% win and win too fast it is bad for everyone. They need more steady winners, and more fish on the edge of turning a profit.

Pre October 2006 27% of the people are up in my PLO database. They were the best games ever and party never made more money.

There has been talk about going Zoom only for high stakes games.

This is actually a smart decision by Party for the sake of their on business. high stakes games typically ensure that there are few winners and quite a few more losers, and that is not what a site like Party would want. They prefer to have lots of players continuously play for a much longer period, generating higher revenue, than losing their money in a quick session or two to the HS players. Obviously they are not doing this for the players' sake, but it is a smart business decision.

- They allow hu cash lobbies to look like what others like Joe Tall mention in this thread, yet for heads up sngs, a game that actually rakes a ton for the poker room and isn't a line of ridiculous players waiting to hunt fish, they stifle their traffic by charging 2x the market rate rake rates from the low stakes until the $200 level (a majority of games). So basically reduce your volume in a game that is good for your poker room at rake generation and lack of bumhunting, yet spread and encourage the lower raking, heavy bumhunting game?

- If the rake vs winnings charts are indicative of the problem here, why wouldn't they just increase the rake for the higher stakes games? Never understood why higher stakes game are capped so low on rake per pot, yet on most (competitive) sites, sit and gos are rake % reduced a lot less drastically at the respective higher stakes levels.

Party has always charged more, and had higher minimum stakes. I like that they over-rake, it encourages people to play bigger. That's the original reason they are over-raked. You have a point something is wrong though, I just think low stakes hu sng's are irrelevant.

One huge problem is the o8 economy. The rake is so high in the smaller games that people never graduate to the higher games. They need to reduce rake to nil (with bonuses and promotions) for a while there until the bigger games go 24/7.

If you look at the $25 max games you rarely see people with twice the max buy. Yes people have got a bit tighter, and in plo8 that means more split pots and more rake paid before you can win. The $25 max games play similar to the $10-20 games 6 years ago. In $10-20 the rake is inconsequential and was only about a 10% tax. Now the rake is 2x profits of the best players in the lowest games. This can't continue and them expect people to chase losses in higher games by putting on more money.

Well played Roman

LOL

Halving (at least) the rake at 100nl and below should be every poker sites priority, or very soon their golden goose will die die die

It sucks for the guys that battle 10/20+ regularly, but from a business point of view I can see why Party have done this

It's obviously better for Party as more % of deposits are converted to rake this way. Not much more to it imo.

******* this

same concept as lotto

the "best case scenario" as an aspiring poker player is so low now

i really hope you're reading this party reps