This is by far the best, and probably only, solution to the problem.

While we are at HU improvements, the bum-hunting has to stop. I mean yeah, game-selection yadayada but why not force sb to play lets say 50 hands when hes waiting at a table for action and sb joins? If he sits out he has to pay the blinds/antes until the 50 or whatever how many hands are over (like in a SNG).

this is exactly how it works on the site i play, and is a far better method than FT's - and not just because it nullifies the problem Clayton has outlined here.

KoTH is a great idea in theory, but in practice you and I would be battling for tables at like 2/4 if this ever went into practice.

Some common sense things need to be done, but I'm not sure King of the Hill is the answer.

For one, if you refuse a game you lose your right to that table and must leave.

Ideally I'd love a system that allowed people who are willing to play regs more tables. Not going to lie I'm not sure how to police it, but I like the idea of taking over the table if someone sits out. Tables still spawn infinitely, but this way a non-bumhunter will be sitting at 10 open tables, and bumhunters will only have the 2 or whatever and cannot open any more. I guess you'd police this by giving everyone two tables to sit at, then not allow them to sit at any empty tables, but they can sit at infinite tables with other people on them.

Example:

We have alphabetical tables A-Z

I open my two starting tables, let's call them G and H.

I see a really bad reg at table A, I sit in. He sits out. Table A is now mine along with G and H

I see another reg at table Q that I want to play. I sit in, he sits out. Table Q is now mine so I now have A,G,H and Q

Now let's say a really good player sits with me at A and I deny them, I must give up A, so now I have G,H and Q.

So on and so forth, all the while the bumhunters will never have more than 2 tables unless they play other players

But then in theory couldn't two players team up to take turns sitting at the same table and alternating who sits out? Then both would be able to sit at as many tables as they wanted? Decent idea in theory but not sure it would work.

Like I said, it's tough to make an automated policing system... obviously people exploit whatever they can to get an edge, like the table naming thing. I think you just need really harsh penalties for those who try to work around the system like you described. That would be blatantly trying to manipulate the system to their advantage.

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Not sure if this would work but I'm sure you guys will be happy to point out the flaws.

Why not prevent people from sitting out but offer a decent time bank? That way people either have to play or leave but should they need a small break for whatever reason they just activate the time bank. Ideally the timebank available would increase in line with the length of play, up to 5 mins total.

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FTP needs to change its CEO and all staff.

Isn't the real problem here that "good" players won't play against what their tools or memories have registered are other "good" players?

Not the fact that some random guy who joins once in a while also leaves soon when he sees he's loosing. And what abotu short stacking, that wouldn't be easy to counter with that system anyway.


To much hassle for everything. No easy solutions and I understand the frustration. But like...I don't know. I wouldn't be mad if this happend. But it would make the client a bit harder to navigate.

i don't mind op's beef and i think it should be addressed but FTP should focus on hard coding the table limit into their software. It's annoying to respect the rules by sitting at 4 tables and see some ppl going on 6-10 and not get banned for it.

What about each player having a "sit out time bank" similar to the disconnect time bank. It could be 10-15 mins or whatever, and it gets refreshed every time you sit at a new heads up table.

If you sit out, it counts down, until its gone and the software automatically stands you up from the seat.

If you sit-in and stay playing for 30mins-1 hour (whatever) it counts back up til it caps at 15 mins again.

support, seriously considering leaving ftp if this mess stays like it is

Obeymyread isn't a bum hunter. He is just a dude that gets paid like 10 bucks an hr to hold down the A tables for storco. Doesn't matter if the biggest fish on FTP sits he will deny them action.

Any play that he does at 5/10+ is almost definately either storco multiaccounting or sweating him in order to get a few hands under his belt so it's not *quite* so obvious what they are up to.