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06-19-2016 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ESW
Not sure if the mods will agree, but a couple of us in the Baazov thread were wondering if maybe some of the other discussions might be better suited to a thread in a different part of the forum?
I doubt there are any mods that will go through that thread with close to 600 posts and start studying it so that certain posts can be moved or deleted. If there are posts that are a big enough derail that they don't belong or they are against the NVG posting rules then you need to report them for consideration by the mods.

This thread seems no different than any other thread where several different issues end up getting discussed. Also, it is always a good idea not to feed the trolls in these type of threads.
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06-23-2016 , 01:13 PM
I am wondering why my thread on Matt Glantz dyed hair was removed. It wasn't an attack or really even that negative.

There are certainly threads in NVG up and running that are "worse".

Thanks!
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06-23-2016 , 01:23 PM
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There are certainly threads in NVG up and running that are "worse".
No, not really

If you posted it in the WSOP or LC thread it probably would have survived, but not thread worthy.

(I was not the mod that deleted it)
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06-23-2016 , 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
No, not really

If you posted it in the WSOP or LC thread it probably would have survived, but not thread worthy.

(I was not the mod that deleted it)
I believe it was "gossip" and tagged it as such.
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06-23-2016 , 02:02 PM
I deleted it. Definitely not thread worthy. Put a post in an active WSOP thread and no problem. Then everyone can know that Matt dyes his hair.
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06-23-2016 , 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
I deleted it. Definitely not thread worthy. Put a post in an active WSOP thread and no problem. Then everyone can know that Matt dyes his hair.
Thanks for the response, Have a good day!
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06-26-2016 , 12:45 PM
Please unlock the Moskow thread. It made the NY Daily News today, and Dalla's attourney has announced they are planning to sue.

Also audio recordings of Hanson regarding his comment about Jews.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...icle-1.2688598

http://lindakenneybadenlaw.com/annou...r-dallas-name/
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06-29-2016 , 10:39 PM
To the moderator that gave me a one-day ban for my posting to this thread, can you please tell me the reason for the ban, here or via a PM. Thanks.
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06-29-2016 , 10:42 PM
A Vanessa Selbst sexuality comment was your ticket to a time out.
YW
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06-29-2016 , 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
A Vanessa Selbst sexuality comment was your ticket to a time out.
YW
Thanks for the reply. My comment wasn't at all meant to be about her sexuality. It was referring to her poker aggression, which is usually associated with testosterone, which btw women possess like men (in varying amounts).
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06-29-2016 , 10:51 PM
Lets leave it at any discussion outside of her poker skills/plays/results may result in mod action. Discussion of an individual's physiology falls outside of that realm. Thanks.
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07-11-2016 , 08:17 AM
Just want to point out, my thread on Glantz dying his hair was deleted while THIS balding thread is allowed to run?

What's the logic?
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07-11-2016 , 01:52 PM
The balding thread was very close to being deleted as well.

The reason the balding thread stayed is that it was started as a more general discussion rather than a specific discussion of one player's specific appearance. I think most people couldn't care less about Glantz going Gray and if it is news it sure isn't worthy of it's own thread.

You could of probably fit this post in to a WSOP thread or the low content thread without it getting deleted.
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07-11-2016 , 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by R*R
The balding thread was very close to being deleted as well.

The reason the balding thread stayed is that it was started as a more general discussion rather than a specific discussion of one player's specific appearance. I think most people couldn't care less about Glantz going Gray and if it is news it sure isn't worthy of it's own thread.

You could of probably fit this post in to a WSOP thread or the low content thread without it getting deleted.
So, just to completely clarify, A thread generic to many people is okay, but one specific to one person is not? Also, I never posted it as "news", it was "gossip". Is a thread about balding news?

Thanks for the input regardless.
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07-11-2016 , 02:32 PM
Almost every moderation decision is subjective and no matter what you do some will think it is too much or too little. Take the proposal thread. A few folks think it should be locked. Just as many think it shouldn't.

What may be thread worthy to you will be clutter to others and undeserving of its own thread.

Easy decisions are ones that have a vast majority agreeing with the logic.

We do the best we can to piss of an equal number of folks on both sides and that usually means we are doing ok.
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07-11-2016 , 03:13 PM
Specifically, a thread about one person's hair going gray will almost always get bounced, yes.
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07-15-2016 , 12:39 PM
I only pop in here once in a while. I came in for updates and news on Matt Marafioti - and can't really fathom what would justify some overzealous moderator for feeling that they are justified for shutting down all dialogue on the topic. Admittedly, I don't know what cause the thread to be closed, but it just seems like the height of self importance for someone to delete all of the corresponding discussion on the topic.

It's a missing persons thread for crying out loud - get over your internal politics.
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07-15-2016 , 01:27 PM
If you were looking to the thread as it existed, for updates, you would have been sorely disappointed. Several of us saw it as the opposite of what you painted. A bunch of folks arguing and derailing about mental health because "someone was wrong on the internet.jpg" and posting sensitive private information, nothing to do with the topic of helping and finding Matt.
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07-15-2016 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
If you were looking to the thread as it existed, for updates, you would have been sorely disappointed. Several of us saw it as the opposite of what you painted. A bunch of folks arguing and derailing about mental health because "someone was wrong on the internet.jpg" and posting sensitive private information, nothing to do with the topic of helping and finding Matt.
Ok, I can understand that... But I'd respectfully contend that the thread topic merits the additional work of deleting problem posts and leaving it open for additional dialogue. Dealing with it in the same fashion that you would any random troll thread (minus the sticky) seems overly flippant for a missing person thread.
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07-15-2016 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by J_Phil
I only pop in here once in a while. I came in for updates and news on Matt Marafioti
At the moment there is one goal with all of this. Find Matt!

Any updates or news brought to our attention will be posted.
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07-15-2016 , 01:44 PM
A random troll thread also gets locked or deleted. There were absolutely no posts on topic and of merit worth keeping past the OP and the actual update that I posted.

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But I'd respectfully contend
Now you want to be respectful? I take your first post as far from respectful and very assumptive. I have never previously acted on a thread like that before and made that decision with careful consideration of the topic and the situation at hand and out of respect for the family.
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07-15-2016 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Professionalpoker
A random troll thread also gets locked or deleted. There were absolutely no posts on topic and of merit worth keeping past the OP and the actual update that I posted.


Now you want to be respectful? I take your first post as far from respectful and very assumptive. I have never previously acted on a thread like that before and made that decision with careful consideration of the topic and the situation at hand and out of respect for the family.
Well I wanted to at least try and be respectful since you were willing to engage me in conversation. But I totally disagree with your decision and DO think it's coming from a place of self importance and ego. I don't have anything more to say.
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07-15-2016 , 04:58 PM
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Well I wanted to at least try and be respectful since you were willing to engage me in conversation. But I totally disagree with your decision and DO think it's coming from a place of self importance and ego. I don't have anything more to say.
You couldn't be more wrong. There have been numerous threads about him and his issues. They all turn out like ****, and only adds on to the problems the guy already has, but of course you couldn't know that since;

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I only pop in here once in a while.
Mods have done the right thing this time, and the other times, by closing the threads. What is said in those threads in no way helps him/his family/friends, it only makes it worse.

Your statement that;
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it's coming from a place of self importance and ego
is just ridiculous.

GJ mods on this one.
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07-15-2016 , 06:44 PM
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Well I wanted to at least try and be respectful since you were willing to engage me in conversation.
For the life of me, I can't imagine how you would think was in any way respectful:

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Originally Posted by J_Phil
I only pop in here once in a while. I came in for updates and news on Matt Marafioti - and can't really fathom what would justify some overzealous moderator for feeling that they are justified for shutting down all dialogue on the topic. Admittedly, I don't know what cause the thread to be closed, but it just seems like the height of self importance for someone to delete all of the corresponding discussion on the topic.

It's a missing persons thread for crying out loud - get over your internal politics.
You only pop in here once in a while, have no idea what was in that thread before it was deleted, yet you're prepared to declare the moderator overzealous. I guess you think you're being respectful because you said it seems like the height of self importance, but if you were trying to be respectful, that wasn't a place you needed to go when you admittedly knew nothing about why the thread was closed, and any semblance of being respectful was wiped out by your opening ("overzealous moderator") and closing ("get over your internal politics") anyway.

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But I totally disagree with your decision and DO think it's coming from a place of self importance and ego. I don't have anything more to say.
Given that none of the responses you received have any hint of self-importance or ego, I'd say this simply confirms what was obvious from your first post - you made a ridiculous assumption based on little knowledge of the situation.

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You couldn't be more wrong. There have been numerous threads about him and his issues. They all turn out like ****, and only adds on to the problems the guy already has
This, this, this. We have had so many "look at what adz is doing on Twitter he be crazy!" threads that benefit no one. At best, they let a few people enjoy themselves at his expense, and at worst, they end up being a net negative for both him and others suffering from mental illness.

It would be one thing if that thread had become a great tip line or something, but it wasn't. There was nothing in the way of leads that closing the thread has extinguished. I'm sure if PP and/or R*R were suddenly inundated with important information, they'd consider reopening - and at the very least, they'll be posting that info.

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I don't have anything more to say.
Probably for the best. Maybe I should've left this alone as well, but it pisses me off when I see volunteer moderators doing good work and then getting crapped on for pretty much no reason.

It always amazes me how people are able to make assumptions about others based on a couple of posts on the Internet. Do people really think there's a large subset of posters that get some sort of gratification from being able to "impose their will" on others by locking or deleting a thread? Seems like an assumption that belongs with the tired "nerd posting from Mom & Dad's basement" meme.

And of course that doesn't just apply to posts about moderators; people make ridiculous assumptions about all sorts of posters on the forums.

Pro Tip: The number of people whose entire personality, passions, and interests can be accurately captured in an hour or two's activity on a forum each day is very, very small. We all know little to nothing about the motivations of the vast majority of posters.

/rant
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07-17-2016 , 12:51 PM
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Pro Tip: The number of people whose entire personality, passions, and interests can be accurately captured in an hour or two's activity on a forum each day is very, very small. We all know little to nothing about the motivations of the vast majority of posters.
Sounds a pretty good reason to tighten a leash on mods so as not ever to have this opinion floating around..

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...there's a large subset of posters that get some sort of gratification from being able to "impose their will" on others by locking or deleting a thread?
...no offense, just spitballin Bobo, always liked you (and SGT RJ).... #BoboFett2016

Please no "thats taking away from the likableness of other mods bla blah"..idc, Im not typing about other mods, im typing about liking you and SGT RJ... This is not to say I do not like other moderators, it is just me expressing my liking of 2 specific ones @ this particular moment.

OK?
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