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Old 10-12-2012, 02:19 PM   #1561
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

This is baaaaaaaad. It would be awesome if it was 25% for everyone + extra for high volume grinders. Now its just bad. I was all ready to deposit few K. Now I wont bother.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:24 PM   #1562
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

What kind of compensation can we expect for 40+ iron month and our medals?
I already feel ripped off before you even relaunched now.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:24 PM   #1563
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I'm happy. The old system wasn't fair and the new one seems fair. Don't understand your problems, 25%+ is quite ok.

I wonder whether ftp will offer a sng leaderboard again?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:25 PM   #1564
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

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**** no rakeback is bad
lol, funny that ppl just dont understand, what has been really said...

all in all its not that bad and since I think, its prolly better to have lower RB and less nitty rakeback-pros on a site, I dont have a real problem with it. PRobalby bad for highvolume-players and good for the majority of ppl
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:32 PM   #1565
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

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lol, funny that ppl just dont understand, what has been really said...

all in all its not that bad and since I think, its prolly better to have lower RB and less nitty rakeback-pros on a site, I dont have a real problem with it. PRobalby bad for highvolume-players and good for the majority of ppl
Surprise for you...all the nitty rakeback-pros aren't/weren't on FTP with their flat 27% rb. They're on another site.

This is also not good for the majority of ppl which is the casual player. Now they'll probably end up with 5%-10% tops. Great for FTP owners. Not great for the player.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:33 PM   #1566
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

Atm all our points worth 2.5$/100 fpp?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:35 PM   #1567
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I'm happy. The old system wasn't fair and the new one seems fair. Don't understand your problems, 25%+ is quite ok.

I wonder whether ftp will offer a sng leaderboard again?
How is 25 % fair? Its prolly one of the lowest rakebacks industry wide.
And what you dont take into consideration: the supposedly "difficult" system on FT even made the fish play more, so they can reach certain iron man levels, grind off their mid and end year bonuses and other promotions. All this will be gone when you got a simple points for cash system.
Besides, its freaking boring and just another Pokerstars clone, something Shyam at first made believe wont be happening.
How is this gonna be attractive or even creative?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:37 PM   #1568
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Atm all our points worth 2.5$/100 fpp?
This would be a joke. Under the old system they would be worth up to 4$/100 FTPs.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:41 PM   #1569
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

anyone whos thinks the new method is ok clearly doesnt play poker that seriously at all, the new system just muggs off anyone who played on FTP seriously. and its got slightly better for the people who played for a laugh and didnt really care...guess what?! they also dont care about the new system that probably benefits them an extra 5% because its worth about $10 a month to them.
would love it if shayam addressed any of the comments that the new system is a rip off, but i guess all he can do is try and sell it as best he can because i guess its not his fault its only what pokerstars are telling him to do.

pokerstars rewards tier system is complete bollacks. theres a reason we played on FTP and not PS when both were running.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:46 PM   #1570
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

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Atm all our points worth 2.5$/100 fpp?
No, you read it wrong. Your direct weekly payments accrue at an equivalent rate to $2.50 per 100 FTPs although I expect it is pro-rated not incremental. You still have the FTPs you accrue to spend in the store.

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This would be a joke. Under the old system they would be worth up to 4$/1000 FTPs.
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Without the deductions from your direct rakeback the points will be worth $4.54 per 1000 FTPs if you buy the 5k bonus for 1.1m FTPs.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:46 PM   #1571
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

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The program tops out at paying $2.50 for every 100 Full Tilt Points earned (which works out to 25%).
Hey Doug,

So am I correct in thinking it's a tiered system just like at PokerStars?

Is the first tier going to be Bronze?
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:48 PM   #1572
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Surprise for you...all the nitty rakeback-pros aren't/weren't on FTP with their flat 27% rb. They're on another site.

This is also not good for the majority of ppl which is the casual player. Now they'll probably end up with 5%-10% tops. Great for FTP owners. Not great for the player.
How will they get only 5% to 10% When there a 25% rack back based on points.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:51 PM   #1573
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

lol at people saying money grab. They effectively gave every player rakeback.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:52 PM   #1574
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Re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated October 8, 2012)

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How will they get only 5% to 10% When there a 25% rack back based on points.
The top tier is 25%. We don't know how hard it is to get yet, only that it is "significantly easier" than black card (which was a 500 point a day average). I guess it will be around 1000 points a week? This was what the "cash back bonus" required isn't it? Perhaps someone can remember.

He also indicated Black Card would return. I hope it does with the point multipliers intact, as someone on the higher tiers would effectively get 35 or 40% then.
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Old 10-12-2012, 02:54 PM   #1575
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Without the deductions from your direct rakeback the points will be worth $4.54 per 1000 FTPs if you buy the 5k bonus for 1.1m FTPs.
Oh yeah, thats right.
Of course under the new system you'll get much less points, since they are calculated wc too then.
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