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Solncev 08-18-2012 12:43 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madethegrade (Post 34345849)
Commenting on the RAKEBACK situation would be appreciated by many people.......

+1

Sect7G 08-18-2012 12:49 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by krakrakra (Post 34346082)
Is it possible you could restore Iron Man/BC status to an earlier date than that of the closure (perhaps BF)? You can hardly blame people for not playing on the site in the last 1-2 months when it was pretty obvious that there were some big problems at hand. Same thing goes for IM bonus actually.

This is a fair point. I can recall many threads on here with people being scared to play on FT due to... exactly what happened. I'd say to be fair if you ever earned a Black Card it should be reinstated, assuming you're plan for the relaunch includes the BC.

TommyDevito 08-18-2012 05:35 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
no chance of relaunch in september??

OMGEurofish 08-18-2012 05:40 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
will we be given advanced notice of the re-launch time / date?

So will you say on September 15th that the re-lauch will be happening on October 15th for example?

tobbe 08-18-2012 08:14 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray_Ping_Yu (Post 34352025)
no chance of relaunch in september??

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pokerproplaya08 08-19-2012 01:08 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aggo (Post 34345390)
Bull****.

If you like form only responses, then ftp provided good service

If you like it when ftp gave you a standard canned response that didn't answer your question completely, then ftp provided good service

If you were always ok withbeing unsure when you'd get a reply to a question that you know wouldn't be completely answered or correctly interpreted, then ftp provided a good service

If you are ok with receiving a reply that said "hi aggo, we've forwarded your question to ftp cashiers" and you were left thinking: well at least they read ny email, then ftp provided a good service

If you ever had the unfortunate idea of buying anything from their store and email then many months asking for an update on your shipment, and was ok with receiving a canned response that said you'd get a tracking number when they ship, then ftp provided a good service

If you're okay with items mysteriously dumped on your doorstep out of the blue because ftp never required a signature, and didn't bother shipping my monitors in an actual shipping box (lol moment when I saw the shipping sticker on top of the samsung logo), then ftp provided a good service

If you are ok with receiving a tracking number AFTER your items were dumped on your doorstep then ftp provided a good service.


All of these were true stories. I purchased multiple items ftlrom the store and the same thing happened 3-4 times over.

I had just as good if not better service from FTP than I did on PS in the 6 months or so prior to BF.

I'm sure anyone who had blackcard can vouch that with it, you got ridiculously good service.

Strongsville 08-19-2012 01:44 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
it feels like stars is going to be a little too hands off with the new ftp. there are tons of things stars does better than ftp and it would be a shame not to include these with the new site.

three_dee 08-19-2012 02:50 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andyg2001 (Post 34338985)
That means the same thing as continuously shuffle the cards,

No, it doesn't. "Continuously shuffling the cards" implies that there is a pre-set deck order, which changes/shuffles during the hand. That is not what happened at Full Tilt at all; the cards were never put into any order whatsoever, so there was no way to "shuffle" them. The term has no meaning in this context.

Quote:

so you don't really make any sense.
And thanks for adding a typical, juvenile 2+2 passive aggressive comment in lieu of making an actual argument.

aggo 08-19-2012 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerproplaya08 (Post 34357411)
I had just as good if not better service from FTP than I did on PS in the 6 months or so prior to BF.

I'm sure anyone who had blackcard can vouch that with it, you got ridiculously good service.

[X] had blackcard
[ ] will vouch for ftp having better or on par service at any time

Shills gonna shill.

DePokerGod 08-19-2012 08:37 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
I can't wait to get back 'home'

djle2 08-19-2012 09:36 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
If you were capable of getting black card, it will be easy to get again. It will only take less than a month.

Don't know when the site reopens that there will be enough games right away to sustain black card status anyway. Im sure FTP2 has to figure it out.

feihua 08-19-2012 10:12 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Will the FT mainstay Fantasy Poker return?

If so, and US players are not yet able to play real money, will there be a push to allow US players to make Fantasy Poker entries?

big e 08-19-2012 12:40 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
I would like to see Pokerstarts/FTP introduce an all year WSOP entry tournament/steps.

To get time of summer I have to book this well in advance and starting the tournaments a couple of months before the start of the wsop is of no use to me.

If they can also amend the steps tournament to exclude anyone who had already won a seat then I would definitely play these, as I don't see the point in playing them just to get picked off by all the professionals in the last couple of steps.

three_dee 08-19-2012 04:46 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by big e (Post 34362549)
I would like to see Pokerstarts/FTP introduce an all year WSOP entry tournament/steps.

To get time of summer I have to book this well in advance and starting the tournaments a couple of months before the start of the wsop is of no use to me.

If they can also amend the steps tournament to exclude anyone who had already won a seat then I would definitely play these, as I don't see the point in playing them just to get picked off by all the professionals in the last couple of steps.

I used to use the Steps tournaments as an easy way to cash in my points. I didn't give a **** about the main event package -- I would cash in my points for a Step 1, and when I would get to Step 5, I would just use my Step 5 ticket to play in a $200+16 six man SNG, which were amazingly soft, and first prize was $770.

If you can cash in say even 30% of those, that's ~$1600 for $30 worth of points. Best use of points that I saw on there for small stakes grinders IMO.

franxic 08-19-2012 05:45 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by three_dee (Post 34358258)
No, it doesn't. "Continuously shuffling the cards" implies that there is a pre-set deck order, which changes/shuffles during the hand. That is not what happened at Full Tilt at all; the cards were never put into any order whatsoever, so there was no way to "shuffle" them. The term has no meaning in this context.



And thanks for adding a typical, juvenile 2+2 passive aggressive comment in lieu of making an actual argument.

full tilt themselves called their shuffling method "continuous shuffle". picking a card by random generator at a specific time is technically identical to shuffling the deck until that specific time and picking the first card.

FDSaussure 08-19-2012 06:43 PM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by franxic (Post 34366617)
full tilt themselves called their shuffling method "continuous shuffle". picking a card by random generator at a specific time is technically identical to shuffling the deck until that specific time and picking the first card.

No, it's technically completely different. It's effectively identical.

lockfish 08-20-2012 12:37 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
has it been decided if its staying rakeback yet?

Jovial Gent 08-20-2012 02:08 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
What if you were a US player pre Black Friday but have relocated since; will you be able to keep your balance/cash out as a ROW player?

C_Bomb 08-20-2012 02:25 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovial Gent (Post 34372943)
What if you were a US player pre Black Friday but have relocated since; will you be able to keep your balance/cash out as a ROW player?

C'mon man, read. That question was answered on day 2. but in case you haven't had a chance , I'll recap for some coaching sessions (seriously, teach me please)

From Lee Jones Pokerstars acquires thread
"Q: I’m an American (that is, I have a Full Tilt account with an American address as of June 29, 2011). But I have moved out of the US and have received permission to play on PokerStars. Can I play on the newly reopened FTP?

A: Anybody residing outside the U.S. (and the IT/EE/ES/BE/FR/DK countries) can play on Full Tilt Poker once it re-launches. We are still determining the exact mechanism by which formerly American Full Tilt players will restart their play on Full Tilt (from outside the U.S.).

Q: Can a player who is defined as a U.S. player, but is now living outside the U.S., simply reopen his account and have access to the funds in it?

A: No. You have to apply to the U.S. DoJ for remission (i.e. to get your money back). Again, we don't know the exact mechanism by which former U.S. players will restart at Full Tilt; we'll let you know as soon as we have it confirmed."

Cliffs.

No you can't just re open your account as a ROW if your account had a USA address as of 29th June 2011.

You will be able to re open the account once it has been verified that you have moved but the balance of that account will have to be retrieved via the DOJ/US Gov. The process for this has not been confirmed as yet.

Jovial Gent 08-20-2012 05:40 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Hmmmm, ok. I guess the biggest question is still unanswered. Thanks C_Bomb.

SpeWeedeR. 08-20-2012 06:05 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
I do not have answer anymore of the FTP support, sick.

MrJayOMG 08-20-2012 07:05 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovial Gent (Post 34374039)
Hmmmm, ok. I guess the biggest question is still unanswered. Thanks C_Bomb.

If you were still registered as a US player after 29th June then you can't keep your balance, you have to go through DOJ/remmission.

If you were ROW, then yes, you can keep balance or cash out as soon as they open the site back up.

C_Bomb 08-20-2012 08:19 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovial Gent (Post 34374039)
Hmmmm, ok. I guess the biggest question is still unanswered. Thanks C_Bomb.

Biggest question being how much/when will USA players get paid? or another question?

Eldorian 08-20-2012 11:28 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by C_Bomb (Post 34374975)
Biggest question being how much/when will USA players get paid? or another question?

Na that one is for a different thread... the biggest question is "rakeback??"

DavidNB 08-20-2012 11:57 AM

re: Official FTP (Pre)Relaunch Thread (OP updated August 24, 2012)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovial Gent (Post 34372943)
What if you were a US player pre Black Friday but have relocated since; will you be able to keep your balance/cash out as a ROW player?

it depends on where your FTP address was on june 29th, 2011. That decides whether you are ROW or US player.


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