Just don't tip when you cash.

It should work itself out in 1000 tournaments.

The tip is built in with the dealer appreciation add-on.

You are not allowed to deduct for tips, only gambling losses.

If you win a million dollars and tip the dealers a million dollars, you are still on the hook for the taxes.

My complaint has nothing to do with the tip. Disregard it. My complaint is I was charged $65 to enter but only have a receipt for $60.

The guy who runs MSPT has a long history of choosing deceptive marketing whenever possible to nickel and dime a few extra bucks. You just have to make sure to read the fine print, both whenever you play a poker tourney but especially when playing MSPT events.

I would imagine it's just a confusing add-on in this case but I would talk to the casino to have them explain.

To be clear, after paying $65 to enter and $5 for dealer appreciation fee, total cost was $70. Receipt was for $60

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Sure I can respond.

1) the $65 satellites are a straight $65 at Meskwaki, there is no additional $5 add-on.

2) The reason we have a $10 add-on in the $250 satellite is because the prize for reaching the top 20% of the satellite is a $1,100 Main Event Certificate - which means no players are receiving cash or chips to tip. To my knowledge, nobody has ever tipped a satellite. Also, we do not withhold 3% of the prize pool for casino staff in a satellite like we do in the Main Event (industry standard). It is very important we take care of our dealers/staff, they put in long hours and deal with a lot of crap, and they are still underpaid. This could also apply to #1 above, nobody tips in a $65 satellite where the prize is a certificate nor do we withhold 3% of prize pool, and the casino makes very little if anything on a low buy-in event.

3) The receipt issue is a question for the individual casino, each casino has their own specific accounting policies based on what is required by each local gaming commission. The MSPT does not handle buy-ins, payouts, receipts or any financial transactions.

4) The Main Event is $1,000+$100, if you'd like to include a $10 dealer appreciation as a fee, then we're up to 11% - which I believe to be among the lowest in the industry - not to mention this is a 2-day tournament meaning the casino pays out twice as much in staff expense for only 10% fee.

5) Just to be clear, the MSPT does not get a % or $ of the fees at Meskwaki, so we certainly have no interest in scamming the player for more money. But at the same time, its important that the casino cover their costs to run the event, otherwise there would no longer be poker rooms. We have argued many times to keep our fees down for the player, and our partner casinos have been great about maintaining the same fees despite increased expenses and pressure to cover costs.

Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns. Hope this helps.

Thanks!
Bryan

Bryan,

Thanks for the quick response, but you are mistaken. You've either inadvertently been given incorrect information or deliberately lied to.


To enter the $65 Multi Table Super Satellite you had to pay $65 at the registration desk even though the receipt clearly shows $50 + $4 + $6 and a total of $60. After paying $65 we were given a receipt for $60 and our seat assignment.

Then, at the table, we were given the option to pay another $5 dealer appreciation fee and get the bonus chips. Therefore, if you opted for the bonus chips, the total cost was $70

There were some traveling dealers working and I'm sure you can confirm that they collected $5 and gave out bonus chips.

Again, I'm not complaining about the dealer appreciation fee for the additional chips. My complaint is being charged $65 to enter but getting a receipt for $60.

When I pointed this out to the floor, they did seem confused but eventually just said "I see what you mean but we've always just done it this way".

The MSPT is at Meskwaki again 10-29 thru 11-06. Please ask them for clarification.

Hi all,

I don´t know if you ever noticed that, but PokerStars (in secret, of course) reduces chances of winning package to EPT Barcelona in Spin and Go. For EPT Monte Carlo was frequency of "jackpot" Spin and Go 50:100000, for EPT Barcelona only 25:100000.

According an article a friend of mine sent me, only four players won an EPT package in Spins yet. (http://www.pokermansk.cz/pokerstars-...n-styria-9189/) PokerStars saved many many dollars thanks to this "small" change.

It makes me sad that PokerStars (or Daniel Negreanu) not informed players that they changed this frequency. There was 121 players who won package for Monte Carlo and maybe four now, that´s a huge decline.

Maybe it was not a big financial success for PokerStars/Amaya when 121 players won package for Grand Final, but still it was players-oriented not shareholders-oriented.

I know what you probably say or what you think, but still it´s sad. I am happy I was not playing these satellites. Kitty Kuo´s tweet (on article screened) is more truthful than she probably knows. And possibly she´s not the only who feels unlucky.

I'm sure this is all just a big misunderstanding.

Clearly a communication error.

What is it like to have super rich parents?

It can get quite chilly in December. Most, if not all, outdoor pools will be closed. If you're there during a mild stretch, it may be pleasant enough for sunbathing but swimming is out unless you're a member of the Polar Bear Club.

Personally, I'll take the cheaper room and spend the difference on other things. Beware the "resort" charge. Hotels will advertise a $39 room rate but have an additional $32 resort fee charge. The link below shows how much various hotels charge and what you get for your money.

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I sent an email to the Meskwaki Gaming Commision describing my complaint. Today I got an email from them that stated:

"It appears that where the mistake lies was on our new supervisor at the podium who was running such tournament for the very first time all by himself. It seems that the source of his apparent confusion was the branding of this super satellite as a “$60+$5” versus “$65” event. Needless to say, our regular supervisory staff all know that whether we call it as “$60+$5” or “$65” makes no difference as to how each entry is being broken down, namely as shown in your receipt: $50 for the prize pool and $10 for staffing (plus $5 optional dealer add-on). But our greenhorn had misinterpreted it to mean that since it is now a “$65” event, it should also follow that $50 would go to the prize pool and $15 for staffing (instead of $10) plus another optional $5 as add-on. Of course, as you had correctly surmised, his erroneous interpretation had led him to make a wrong decision, and in effect he had overcharged each entry by $5."

A $5.00 refund is to be sent to me soon.

I'd like to publicly thank the folks at Meskwaki for quickly taking care of this relatively minor mixup. I look forward to returning the next time the MSPT is there, 10/29/16-11/06/16.

Nice. Will the casino be dilligent in contacting all participants, informing them of the mistake and reimbursing them accordingly?

How many players played in the satties? Could be thousands of dollars, $5 at a time, depending on number of satties and entries into each, no?

Also, I would like to know if the confused Greenhorn will be reprimanded for his erroneous interpretation even though he was forced to work a satellite all by himself!?

*stomping feet demandingly*

According to the email I received:

"Later that very same day, the swing shift supervisors on duty tried all they could to return to the respective players the $5 overpayment. They succeeded to refund 26 out of 36 total entries as they were unable, for some reason, to reach the other 10 (including you). The following day when I got back on duty, I issued a procedure how to obtain the refund money from our cage if they recognize any of the 10 players who may have been still in-house. For the rest who could not be reached that week, our Finance Dept has agreed to mail them their $5 refund."

This was referring to the only day I played one of these, Tuesday July 18th. They also held these $65 satellites on June 4, 11, 18, 25, and July 2, 9, & 20

Their response did not mention these dates. I presume they were conducted correctly and the only mixup by the inexperienced supervisor was on Tuesday.

I am a long time member of 2+2 and was one of the beta testers for Ultimate Bet back in the dark ages. While cleaning out some old boxes I came across an unopened UB software package from circa 2001. Even though I was a member of UB and had the software installed they used to send me these packages all the time and I mostly threw them away.

Thought it was interesting so here are the images. If this is not correct forum please move.

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It looks like something out of the game fallout

That is possible I did have Fallout.

I want to see that 2001 WSOP screen saver

Is there any published research data on this ? If not, what are your thoughts ? By volume, I mean hands played per unit of time.

Does there need to be? It is incredibly easy to figure out. if you play 1 hand per hour you get all the information in the world so your ROI should be your maximum, if you play 1 million hands per hour you might be able to shove aces pre before 200 other windows pop up so your ROI is lowest.

Now in the real world put some constraints to it like max hands per hour and assume you are a winning player at all volumes, the most likely correlation is a ROI ~ 1/Volume which may or may not have thresholds in it where ROI remains steady before going down.

I agree with you that one would expect ROI to be inversely correlated to volume, but it may be more complex than that. Each player should have some optimum volume that hits the right spot for him, such that it maximises ROI. This isn't necessarily the slowest pace he can play at.

Would commishing real money home game leagues on pokerstars be the legal equivalent of commishing season long fantasy football leagues on yahoo?

If a home game league lasted the entire NFL season (~17 weeks), with a tournament played every Sunday, is that enough to say its a contest of skill ?

You also have to consider that for some players, ROI isn't the most important number. For example, in the past a lot of players have put in sick volume to clear bonuses, make Supernova Eiite, or to be a SNG rakeback warrior (which allowed Dario Minieri to buy a Porche with his Frequent Player Points on PokerStars.)*

I suppose you could say that those quests affect ROI, but those calculations can get weird. For example, someone playing SNE could make a net profit just for that achievement, even if they lost money on the tables.

*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBIa2JIx2TE

I haven't seen anything posted yet on this here https://www.highstakesdb.com/7106-do...d-robbery.aspx

Do any others have any stories they would like to share about being robbed/almost robbed?