*** November High Stakes Thread ***

[loveminuszero]

Originally Posted by fednad

umm not the specific hand,but like he said to rui his game was poor and he considered retiring heh,and now all of a sudden he crush high stakes with his style,like this?

(...)

Preflop:
alexeimartov folds, Ilari FIN raises to $940, Fake Love888 folds, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $3,360, Jeans89 folds, GARFIELD25 raises to $6,800, Ilari FIN calls $5,860, 1Il|1Il|1il| raises to $11,773 and is all-in, GARFIELD25 raises to $42,459, Ilari FIN calls $35,659

(...)


1Il|1Il|1il| showed A 2 A 2 and lost (-$11,813 net)
GARFIELD25 showed 7 A Q K and won $138,252 ($75,140 net)
Ilari FIN showed T 8 6 K and lost (-$63,112 net)

What were the suits?

I ran it being generous to the Aces and made them double suited then gave the other two hands one live suit each:



Comprende?

Originally Posted by SoLost

but when you're getting **** like T865 single suited in 3way preflop

Maybe my memory deceives me but in most of the recent pots that were all-in preflop I'm pretty sure that he had Aces or Kings, way more often than weak hands.

[David123]

Originally Posted by fednad

funny that alexeimartov said that ziig actually play tight compared to other regs at those limits loooool

if by funny the HS regs statement totally contradicts your own theory that Ilari is a bad player on run good and too loose, then yes, it's funny.

[fednad]

what theory?Did I say hes bad hey?u aint saint but im am

[guD2Bme]

When did takechip lose 400k?? Ptr shows him at 1.9M down from 2.3M

[fednad]

he is a gambler and eventually will lose,thats that,but very good with brute force/aggression which make up for his wins.

[loveminuszero]

fednad please respond to Ilari's equity in that hand you posted

[fednad]

hows that relevant?if either of opp had kk** and other aa** hed be crushed,but ok:
if u r ready to blow over 200bb ok.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15.../index103.html

[vizion88]

Originally Posted by guD2Bme

When did takechip lose 400k?? Ptr shows him at 1.9M down from 2.3M

[Zaarg]

tbh. ilari is just a degenrate gambler...wondering how always someone calls him "one of the best in the world".

[guD2Bme]

Originally Posted by vizion88

Gross. I never saw his name around since his big win so was shocked when i searched him. Now he's playing 10/20

[loveminuszero]

Originally Posted by fednad

hows that relevant?if either of opp had kk** and other aa** hed be crushed

garfield is aggro so why do you think kk and aa are the majority of his range? Also ilari had a k blocker for what its worth.

And go thru this thread and look at how often ilari's aces have been paid off recently, why do you think that is? Because he every now and then has medium strength hand in his range

I only play 25plo and know that I'm not very good at the game but surely at their level you can't define your hand as clearly as you're suggesting people should

[loveminuszero]

Originally Posted by Zaarg

tbh. ilari is just a degenrate gambler...wondering how always someone calls him "one of the best in the world".

He's a fish at nlhe but by highdtakesdb tracking in all other games he's up 7 million (has 3m winnings between his ftp and ps accounts but is -4m in nlhe) over a big sample dating back to jan 2007, those results speak for themselves

[terp]

Originally Posted by fednad

he is a gambler and eventually will lose,thats that,but very good with brute force/aggression which make up for his wins.

i'm not surprised to see discussion of this level in here but man every so often a comment like this is just so absurd i spit my drink out laughing

well done

[kevmode]

Originally Posted by loveminuszero

He's a fish at nlhe but by highdtakesdb tracking in all other games he's up 7 million (has 3m winnings between his ftp and ps accounts but is -4m in nlhe) over a big sample dating back to jan 2007, those results speak for themselves

Why are u nut hugging on Zigmnund so much? He is a bad person and bad for poker. I hope he goes on a massive downswing when he is on one of his drunk binge sessions.

Isildur1, Phil Ivey, Gus Hansen please come back to the high stakes online felt!

[FishFishFish]

Originally Posted by kevmode

Why are u nut hugging on Zigmnund so much? He is a bad person and bad for poker. I hope he goes on a massive downswing when he is on one of his drunk binge sessions.

Wait wat? Please explain why.