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05-09-2017 , 09:22 PM
well if nothing happens this year in the few states that want it, nothing will happen until after the elections in 2018.

california is almost dead and i dont really see this being completed this year
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05-09-2017 , 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by p2ryan
well if nothing happens this year in the few states that want it, nothing will happen until after the elections in 2018.

california is almost dead and i dont really see this being completed this year
These states just spin their wheels for years trying to agree on the details and never get anywhere. And sessions is going to outlaw it at a federal level and we'll be screwed.

I'm going for the reverse jinx here, and would love to be wrong
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06-13-2017 , 06:42 PM
https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/

Bump

Hopefully we make it happen finally?
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06-13-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Trooper
https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/

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Hopefully we make it happen finally?
Please continue to contact your elected officials.
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06-13-2017 , 08:33 PM
Let the back slapping,horse trading,divvying up the spoils and outright bribery begin.
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06-14-2017 , 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by yahoo83912831
Please continue to contact your elected officials.
Not sure this is going to worth anybody´s time. The maths don´t add up for online poker as a standalone product in New York. The state is not going to pull in much more than $30 million over the first three years of regulation because of the tax concessions. As soon as the Assembly asks how much is it going to cost the state to regulate online poker, the plug will get pulled on these proposals. Sorry to put a downer on everyone.
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06-14-2017 , 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Domingo Cerrado
Not sure this is going to worth anybody´s time. The maths don´t add up for online poker as a standalone product in New York. The state is not going to pull in much more than $30 million over the first three years of regulation because of the tax concessions. As soon as the Assembly asks how much is it going to cost the state to regulate online poker, the plug will get pulled on these proposals. Sorry to put a downer on everyone.
I won't argue how much this or that could make for the state. However, I will argue for people to still contact their elected officials. Why? Well, why not? Contacting them takes 'seconds.' In my opinion, if someone can't spare 'seconds' then one doesn't really want regulated online poker. I can't emphasize enough how easy it is to contact elected officials.

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06-14-2017 , 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by yahoo83912831
I won't argue how much this or that could make for the state. However, I will argue for people to still contact their elected officials. Why? Well, why not? Contacting them takes 'seconds.' In my opinion, if someone can't spare 'seconds' then one doesn't really want regulated online poker. I can't emphasize enough how easy it is to contact elected officials.

Sadly in NY contacting an elected official means nothing unless you are providing ALOT of motivation which comes in different forms in The Empire State. SO many examples of Albany doing what is right for the people AFTER the politicians' interets are taken care of. A quick example is the roll out of brick and mortar casinos. Decades & tens of billions of dollars lost because of these pigs. So much more could be said, but ...
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06-14-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Domingo Cerrado
The state is not going to pull in much more than $30 million over the first three years of regulation because of the tax concessions.
Do you have a source for this figure?
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06-15-2017 , 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Domingo Cerrado
Not sure this is going to worth anybody´s time. The maths don´t add up for online poker as a standalone product in New York. The state is not going to pull in much more than $30 million over the first three years of regulation because of the tax concessions. As soon as the Assembly asks how much is it going to cost the state to regulate online poker, the plug will get pulled on these proposals. Sorry to put a downer on everyone.
What info do you have that the rest of us don't? What maths? How much is it going to cost to regulate? $30M over three years is chump change? DFS is a stand alone product,and the tax revenues are nowhere near $30M,yet it passed.I don't think the bills going to pass either,but it will fail from lack of time and the usual bickering over who gets what and all the lame anti gambling gibberish we've heard since the beginning of time,not the ''maths.''
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06-15-2017 , 02:37 AM
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Originally Posted by whitemares
Do you have a source for this figure?

Not a source as such, just that licenses cost $10 million each and taxes due on GGR can be written off against the license fee for the first three years (maybe five years, not sure).

Anyway, NY can´t support more than three online poker sites, so the state is going to draw in $30 million in license fees and likely little else over the next few years.

I think my "projections" are a little more accurate than those of Gambling Compliance ($122 million in Year One, rising to $164 million by Year Four) and any of the other so-called experts.

WRT expenses, there are bound to be some - plus all the "good causes" putting their hands out for a cut of the action. We´ve seen that in PA with the Department of Drug and Alcohol Programs being given a blank check for a presumed increase in gambling addition. No doubt the good causes in NY will not want to miss out on the opportunity (note: I appreciate these bodies do an admirable job with limited resources to deal with a serious problem, but if you can already bet online in NY/PA/IL/CA, how is regulation going to cause an increase in gambling addiction?).

So @BillyPreston, I don´t know how much regulation is going to cost. I agree with you that the bill will probably run out of time or run into too many problems to be resolved in the time available. WRT DFS, I feel that was a different ball game because Fan Duel is a NY-based company.
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06-15-2017 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Domingo Cerrado
Anyway, NY can´t support more than three online poker sites, so the state is going to draw in $30 million in license fees and likely little else over the next few years.
What? lol maths OP
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06-15-2017 , 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Domingo Cerrado
Not sure this is going to worth anybody´s time. The maths don´t add up for online poker as a standalone product in New York. The state is not going to pull in much more than $30 million over the first three years of regulation because of the tax concessions. As soon as the Assembly asks how much is it going to cost the state to regulate online poker, the plug will get pulled on these proposals. Sorry to put a downer on everyone.
Clearly you don't grasp how New York politics operates. Nothing matters less than how logical or lucrative a proposal is. The only thing that matters is how many bribes can be paid directly and indirectly to the politicians, their associates, their campaigns, and their friends and relatives. If and when the payola from the poker factions exceeds the payola from the racetrack and lottery crowd, poker will pass in New York. Its not more complicated than that, and it certainly has nothing to do with what's "good" for the state.

http://www.syracuse.com/state/index....in_albany.html
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06-15-2017 , 10:51 AM
It's not over yet. The bill has a chance to pass.


https://www.onlinepokerreport.com/25...-bonacic-2017/
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06-15-2017 , 11:25 AM
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So @BillyPreston, I don´t know how much regulation is going to cost. I agree with you that the bill will probably run out of time or run into too many problems to be resolved in the time available. WRT DFS, I feel that was a different ball game because Fan Duel is a NY-based company.
The NY based b&m's and racino's want in on the ipoker action,they employ way more people than FD.As much as I'd like to be the 5th Beatle I can't claim that title,I'm BillyPhelan not BillyPreston.Just to add a little irony considering the subject of this thread,the real Billy Phelan is from Albany.
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06-15-2017 , 03:18 PM
Having a bad f*cking day. Let me use my ONE TIME NY!!!
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06-16-2017 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by yahoo83912831
It can't be stressed enough, if you want regulated online poker in NY, then take a minute to contact your elected officials.

Take Action: http://www.playny.com/new-york-online-poker/
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06-16-2017 , 05:58 PM
Seriously come on!!!!!
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06-19-2017 , 04:13 PM
what the **** was their problem at the first place?
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06-19-2017 , 04:49 PM
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what the **** was their problem at the first place?
Not enough bribe money to overcome the bribe money from lottery and horse racing interests.
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06-19-2017 , 08:36 PM
in combination with bribe money from casinos
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