Steve, here's a question you can presumaly answer even though you are not a tax attorney:

Does Pokerstars report individual gambling winnings to Hacienda?

As part of the regulation all the licensed sites will have to provide info on the individual players - wins, losses, all bets made I think.

Under the terms of our licence in Spain we are required to send regular information to our data vault in Spain which can be accessed by the Spanish gaming regulator, also known as the DGOJ (Dirección General de Ordenación del Juego). This is very similar to the requirements of many of our other licenses, for example those in France or Italy.

The data sent to our data vault in Spain is not summarized to provide per player gambling winnings but this information could be calculated from the data provided.

We do not actively provide any information in respect to per player gambling winnings to the Spanish tax authorities, also known as Hacienda. Our understanding is that there is no automatic exchange of information between DGOJ and Hacienda. However, if Hacienda formally requests information from us about a specific player in connection with a tax audit or tax investigation they are undertaking in respect to that player, we would be required to provide it.

Hi Steve,

About this.... i´ve received an email from PS.ES where someone wrote that:

When you migrate an account from .Com to. Es, in that account, the data of games played or profit, by a nickname, even in the. Com of a user will be available online for the Spanish regulator for 12 months, even the last 6 years would be there if the DGOJ (Spanish regulator) asks for them.

That is, if you pass your data to ps.Es, the controller (DGOJ) would see your old data. Com (lol)

I understand that Pokerstars must be agree with spanish laws, it´s ok. But i understand that theese data must be for spanish regulator from the moment that someone plays in pokerstars.ES, no from a .com nick data.

Please, could you give us some more information about this point?

Thank you

The information in your post appears to be a misinterpretation of some text that our support team sends in response to a slightly different question. My apologies if our email was not completely clear.

We cannot share PokerStars.com player information or history with anyone outside of the appropriate Isle of Man authorities. Pokerstars.com playing history is not submitted to the data vault that is made available to the Spanish regulator.

so tilting that im not allowed to deposit and play with my spanish people

yawn , i hope this gets resolved , honestly the weirdest thing ever

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Hello all..

long time lurker, first time poster..

have been reading the thread and the news articles that came out..i am currently in spain (for quite some time more) and would really like to continue playing online..

here is my question: are the taxes to be paid really calculated on the basis of every pot you play and tournament you cash in, as gross winnings? or is it only the eventual cash out that you make that is being taxed as gross winnings? irrespective of whether pokerstars does or doesn't supply any information to the hacienda, the first way seems to be begging to file personal bankruptcy.. if it was just the cashouts that are taxed grossly it would still be ridiculous, but not nearly as bad as the first option...

thanks for the replies (especially eager to hear what pokerstars steve has to say on this matter)

Pokerstars Steve doesn't seem to comment on tax issues... Understandable, but I find it weird that Pokerstars.es is potentially offering financial suicide to all its clients that play any sort of volume and Pokerstars doesn't seem to give a ****.

Pokerstars surely have a vested interest in getting these tax issues sorted for spanish players, otherwise volume is going to grind to a halt abrubtly on .es sites.

And what about the fact that PokerStars is the only company not allowing new affiliation?

Could we have an explanation from Steve Poker?

thank you

Why wildace.es from budapest is allowed to play?

Most Spaniards I have dealt with, and there are quite a few, act as if the Armada is still in exists and that they are still a world class power. They are arrogant and a half.

While that behavior is representative of only a (large minority) subset of the Spanish population, it is essentially the core problem with Spain's government and businesses.

Here's a summary for those from somewhere else:
For 40 years Franco ruled preaching the greatness of the Spanish pueblo, the superiority of Spanish food, and the glorious history of conquistadores and Carlos I (known as Charles V in the rest of the world) and his descendants. In the 1990's came Aznar preaching a return to the glory of Felipe II (the armada) and this coincided with the real estate mania and the discovery of the euro. The current situation is all the fault of the socialists and the Germans.

Why PokerStars is the only company not allowing new affiliation and retrack?

Could we have an explanation from Steve Poker?

Does Poker Stars will pay the fine? (up to 50 millions euros) or is any deal with the spanich government becuase the tax before regulation?

Why Steve Poker does not answer?