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Old 01-28-2017, 08:29 PM   #176
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

won 10min ago by a guy from poland. got 5$ share.
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Old 01-28-2017, 08:33 PM   #177
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won 10min ago by a guy from poland. got 5$ share.
$5.30, baby!

Ship it!
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:05 PM   #178
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Well, that's how I lost my 20000 coins. I really hope it was +EV attempt to win big.
EV isn't everything - you really need to be able to back it up with the volume to actually realise it.

I mean - if all the money in the world you owned, at the age of 50, including your house, car, etc - your entire net worth, was $1M and someone offerred you a bet:



Pick a number between 1 and 50, you have to stake the whole $1M. Anyway, a wheel spins and randomly lands on a number, from 1 to 50. If you get the right number, well then you get $1,000,500.

So - that is +EV. But if all you have is $1M and that is everything it took your whole life to build, it's not worth staking that for the chance at realising that tiny bit of expected value.


Now sure - if you had many, many billions of dollars, then you should take that bet all day long, take it every moment of every day until you have all the money in the world (save for the most horrible run-bad in existence that sends you broke).



But it's a basic bankroll management principle; Expected Value doesn't mean **** if you're not rolled to realise the value expectation.
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:44 PM   #179
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EV isn't everything - you really need to be able to back it up with the volume to actually realise it.

I mean - if all the money in the world you owned, at the age of 50, including your house, car, etc - your entire net worth, was $1M and someone offerred you a bet:



Pick a number between 1 and 50, you have to stake the whole $1M. Anyway, a wheel spins and randomly lands on a number, from 1 to 50. If you get the right number, well then you get $1,000,500.

So - that is +EV. But if all you have is $1M and that is everything it took your whole life to build, it's not worth staking that for the chance at realising that tiny bit of expected value.


Now sure - if you had many, many billions of dollars, then you should take that bet all day long, take it every moment of every day until you have all the money in the world (save for the most horrible run-bad in existence that sends you broke).



But it's a basic bankroll management principle; Expected Value doesn't mean **** if you're not rolled to realise the value expectation.
Well you wasted 10 minutes typing this.

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Old 01-29-2017, 05:08 AM   #180
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Pick a number between 1 and 50, you have to stake the whole $1M. Anyway, a wheel spins and randomly lands on a number, from 1 to 50. If you get the right number, well then you get $1,000,500.

So - that is +EV.
Have another think about what you just said. This is actually -EV
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:46 AM   #181
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EV isn't everything - you really need to be able to back it up with the volume to actually realise it.

I mean - if all the money in the world you owned, at the age of 50, including your house, car, etc - your entire net worth, was $1M and someone offerred you a bet:



Pick a number between 1 and 50, you have to stake the whole $1M. Anyway, a wheel spins and randomly lands on a number, from 1 to 50. If you get the right number, well then you get $1,000,500.

So - that is +EV. But if all you have is $1M and that is everything it took your whole life to build, it's not worth staking that for the chance at realising that tiny bit of expected value.


Now sure - if you had many, many billions of dollars, then you should take that bet all day long, take it every moment of every day until you have all the money in the world (save for the most horrible run-bad in existence that sends you broke).



But it's a basic bankroll management principle; Expected Value doesn't mean **** if you're not rolled to realise the value expectation.
his articulation needs work but what he is trying to say is the law of diminish return. If you were hungry you would pay 10$ for a burger but after 6 burger you are pretty full and if someone offers to give you 10$ to eat a 7th burger you will most likely pass since you are already full but you would be more than happy to pay for the 1st burger. The first million is worth more than the 2nd million, the 2nd million is worth more than the 3rd etc etc
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Old 01-29-2017, 05:54 AM   #182
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

also lol @ nits who says to spin once every 12 hours, obv its +ev but not trying to hit the jackpot at 500k come on. if you win its life changing money for 99.9% of people and also its +ev to spin at 500k. I would risk money at 0ev or slightly -ev to hit life changing money let a lone something that is +ev.
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Old 01-29-2017, 08:55 AM   #183
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

And now it hits only couple hours later at around 35K from 25K start
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:31 AM   #184
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And now it hits only couple hours later at around 35K from 25K start
Yes, another 70 cent.

Made six bucks sleeping last night.
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Old 01-29-2017, 09:42 AM   #185
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Yes, another 70 cent.

Made six bucks sleeping last night.

you got jip if it was only 70c, i got 71c
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Old 01-29-2017, 03:21 PM   #186
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also lol @ nits who says to spin once every 12 hours, obv its +ev but not trying to hit the jackpot at 500k come on. if you win its life changing money for 99.9% of people and also its +ev to spin at 500k. I would risk money at 0ev or slightly -ev to hit life changing money let a lone something that is +ev.
thats if the game is not rigged in any way.
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Old 01-29-2017, 03:25 PM   #187
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thats if the game is not rigged in any way.


If you question the deal, kinda hard to trust online poker. I understand there might be a percentage that it could be rigged I don't doubt it but what I'm saying is if it's not rigged who wouldn't gamble in that spot


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Old 01-30-2017, 02:23 AM   #188
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seems like it always restart at 25K.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:27 AM   #189
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

Winner of the $500k split so 250k or w.e was like a $1ABI micro mtt grinder over a couple K games lol not a bad day for him
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:28 AM   #190
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with 7c/12h i see the money on my account every time, with jackpot i dont, so it's just common sense to be cautious with Amaya.
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Old 01-30-2017, 02:35 AM   #191
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

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EV isn't everything - you really need to be able to back it up with the volume to actually realise it.

I mean - if all the money in the world you owned, at the age of 50, including your house, car, etc - your entire net worth, was $1M and someone offerred you a bet:



Pick a number between 1 and 50, you have to stake the whole $1M. Anyway, a wheel spins and randomly lands on a number, from 1 to 50. If you get the right number, well then you get $1,000,500.

So - that is +EV. But if all you have is $1M and that is everything it took your whole life to build, it's not worth staking that for the chance at realising that tiny bit of expected value.


Now sure - if you had many, many billions of dollars, then you should take that bet all day long, take it every moment of every day until you have all the money in the world (save for the most horrible run-bad in existence that sends you broke).



But it's a basic bankroll management principle; Expected Value doesn't mean **** if you're not rolled to realise the value expectation.
Except peoples starcoins are usually a tiny fraction of their net worth.

For the $10-100 in value most casual players have sitting around it's a fun diversion that had an expected return of about 3x the value of your wagers.
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Old 03-19-2017, 07:24 PM   #192
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

And... it's gone
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:52 PM   #193
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

What's up, did they announce anything? Just got online for the first tiem in a week and was curious what the JP was, but no link anywhere like before.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:53 PM   #194
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

I haven't read any of this thread, but I played The Deal a few times and I think they screwed up by making it almost impossible to have any small wins. You either just sat and burned away your VIP points, or 1 in a million times you got lucky and won the jackpot. No fun.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:19 PM   #195
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And... it's gone
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What's up, did they announce anything? Just got online for the first tiem in a week and was curious what the JP was, but no link anywhere like before.

Guess 'The Deal' may not be everybody's cup of tea - but for anybody who has been looking for it the last couple of days, there's a great thread in the Internet section that has an explanation for its disappearance, and some helpful tips

Two Plus Two Poker Forums > Internet Poker > Internet Poker >
***PokerStars Promotions Ideas/Suggestions/Opinions Thread***
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:52 AM   #196
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

...and $13 for the mac users.
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:02 AM   #197
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Guess 'The Deal' may not be everybody's cup of tea - but for anybody who has been looking for it the last couple of days, there's a great thread in the Internet section that has an explanation for its disappearance, and some helpful tips

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***PokerStars Promotions Ideas/Suggestions/Opinions Thread***


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...and $13 for the mac users.
Damnn Been playing the deal every 12 hrs since last 2 months, missed it today and there goes my chance to win the highest reward ever since it got launched on stars

Btw, the deal is back on windows client:

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Microsoft has now released the patch that should resolve this:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/...date-kb4015438

The Deal is now back on again for Windows users.
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Old 03-22-2017, 01:08 PM   #198
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

I have never ever seen this game in the client... how do I get to play it?
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Old 03-23-2017, 10:37 PM   #199
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Re: New no-skill Stars game: "The Deal"

Never got to play it being from the UK but still made a profit off it.
Was playing low limit 8 game and some guy sat down, and proceeded to pot/bet/jam every possible street in every game.
Was wondering what was going on, maybe just some whale looking to donate, then when I moused over his name, it said The Deal winner. Got talking to him, said he'd won $127k. He kept challenging everyone to play 10/20 HU, which was unlikely considering we were at a 1/2 table
Seemed like a nice guy though.
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Old 03-30-2017, 08:26 AM   #200
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Never got to play it being from the UK but still made a profit off it.
Just wanted to say that this post was highly appreciated in highlighting to me that UK players were unable to play The Deal. This has now been resolved and The Deal is available on the UK client.
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