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10-07-2015 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by madlex
we should at least support people who are still willing to invest money into poker and try something new.
absolutely agree
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10-07-2015 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly

FWIW, I don't think the GPL is a bad thing. I'm just bemused. And also slightly amused, as the box reminds me of The Crystal Maze, one of the silliest game shows ever.
Aren't you from the UK?

Doesn't it remind you more of The Cube,
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10-07-2015 , 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteBlow
Doesn't it remind you more of The Cube,
As if I'd ever watch ITV! I'm a middle class intellectual, dontchaknow!

I'd never heard of 'The Cube', but I see what you mean. If Dreyfus can get Pip Schofield to act as Tournament Director for the GPL, he's got a hit show on his hands!
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10-07-2015 , 09:26 PM
There's more chance of them hiring Annie Duke, worryingly more.
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10-07-2015 , 10:45 PM
Why not just put cash games on and film them for TV instead of this malakey
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10-07-2015 , 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tommy_Tomich969
Why not just put cash games on and film them for TV instead of this malakey
Because they're not looking to cater to people who already like poker....
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10-08-2015 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
I even enjoyed 'Shark Cage'.
Me too. At least you see the round play to a conclusion rather than "day 4 of tournament X" - I see I have about 5 hours of PCA 2015 coverage to get through and it looks like daunting commitment - maybe I'll not bother, whereas you can just dip into a shark cage episode. What they really need to do is make a legit tournament that runs as a shootout like Shark Cage because the reality show had a kind of "dead" artificial feel to it. Also anyone can try to satellite into a real tournament whereas most people know they don't have what it takes to get past a reality show production team's selection process - but the basic idea of the shootout format is the best one. It's how TV poker started in the UK too.

This cube thing, how does the actual play work, is it play down to a winner? I think the idea is that the money comes from investors who want to back a team rather than customers, so it's a business model more like bridge or old-school yachting than football.

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10-08-2015 , 02:46 AM
finally a man in touch with what the people really want !
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10-08-2015 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ArtyMcFly
Indeed. I understand there is a decent amount of money in televised/streamed e-gaming events, especially in the far east. But isn't the problem that the average age of a Twitch viewer is about 15? Those viewers aren't even old enough to legally play poker, so I have trouble joining the dots and seeing how poker gets an influx of money from events like those.
But I'm old, as I said. I still like watching highlight shows with Norm and Lon, or Stapes and Hartigan. (I even enjoyed 'Shark Cage'.)
i don't see the dots either and the age issue is definitely a good point. but on the other hand there's plenty of 'barely legal fish' in the twitch zone and when i read that kids nowadays wager on esports matches with virtual goodies i feel super old and mega out of touch (meh, kids don't say mega these days :-() ... so we'll have to wait


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Originally Posted by LektorAJ
Me too. At least you see the round play to a conclusion rather than "day 4 of tournament X" - I see I have about 5 hours of PCA 2015 coverage to get through and it looks like daunting commitment - maybe I'll not bother, whereas you can just dip into a shark cage episode.
well this cube addresses this issue a bit. only a few teams/faces combined with fast action. PR said something like 40 min matches and very fast play.

i think they only thing is the money factor ... if the gpl makes money (sponsors, tickets, team owners ...), then it will run and can build up momentum
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10-08-2015 , 07:18 AM
All these new fans are going to be really disappointed when they all flock to their local casino and find out that poker tables come with chairs and the wait list is longer than the 40 minutes they intend to play.
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10-09-2015 , 12:47 PM
Please if you have questions, ask them here and will be answered live on Twitch wednesday.
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10-09-2015 , 04:38 PM
Are live viewers encouraged to tap the tank if a fish is inside it?
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10-09-2015 , 07:33 PM
The cube concept is interesting. Something like that would actually be cool for the November 9. You would have all the advantages of live coverage without the players having the opportunity to run every 10 min to their rail and review recent hand histories.
This part always struck me as taking away from real poker. However, the stakes at the main event final table are so high that any form of live coverage seems iffy, regardless of sound/visionproof walls.
But wtf about standing at the table? No clue what this is supposed to be good for...
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10-09-2015 , 07:47 PM
Uh i think people who enjoy poker on TV just want a consistant viewing schedule of new content, people have gotten bored of poker on TV because they have seen the same episode 10x I dont think gimmicks are ncessary, but as far as we know maybe thats the type of idea you have to pitch to network TV to get air time.Oh and for the love of #$@! please no more doofus celebrities playing like a 89 year old grandma
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10-10-2015 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Drrr.Gonzo
Uh i think people who enjoy poker on TV just want a consistant viewing schedule of new content, people have gotten bored of poker on TV because they have seen the same episode 10x I dont think gimmicks are ncessary, but as far as we know maybe thats the type of idea you have to pitch to network TV to get air time.Oh and for the love of #$@! please no more doofus celebrities playing like a 89 year old grandma
The only reason there used to be plenty of regular new content was that the sites were paying for it, not the tv companies.
For tv companies to pay for it, it has to be something with a mass appeal that will attract advertising money. Straight poker doesn't cut it.
Why standing in a box is seen as the answer, I really don't know.

For the last few years, I've been in the US when the spelling bee is on ESPN.
People go nuts for that and you hear comment on it all over the place, not just from the spelling bee community.
To a lesser extent the same appears to be the case for when that Chestnut(?) guy shovels hotdogs down himself.
You don't hear comment about how Martin Jacobsen destroyed the FT from anywhere other than the poker community.

Hotdogs and spelling bees are now part of tradition. Maybe the WSOP ME is now too.

The difference is the hotdog and spelling bee communities don't keep trying to dilute their tradition by making other shows.
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10-10-2015 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by good2cu
I think this is awesome.
Someone wants some more TV time

And also how is there no Australian team?

(In before LOLstralia)

I still think it's a terrible idea fwiw but I have been wrong once before, guess this could be the second time.

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Originally Posted by madlex
I don't get all the negativity. Not that I am super optimistic that it's going to work out, but we should at least support people who are still willing to invest money into poker and try something new.

It's not like that idea will have a negative impact on any of us.
You do have a valid point

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10-10-2015 , 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevmath
I'm no GPL enthusiast, but from what I read of the press release, many of the events take place online, which greatly reduces the need for travel.


Pete, I would have figured you as smart enough to have already understood Alex's M.O.
Also reduces the possibilities for viewership imo
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10-10-2015 , 05:35 PM
Maybe it would be like NFL in the UK (at least a couple of decades ago when I watched TV there) where we see one feature match per week and pretty much just get told the results of the others.
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10-10-2015 , 05:56 PM
http://www.allinmag.com/poker/inside...l-poker-league

Interested in your point of views on this piece.
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10-10-2015 , 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by adreyfus
http://www.allinmag.com/poker/inside...l-poker-league

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well written. Agree with final comment re: GPL differences to Epic and PPT. Anyone that believes that this is third attempt at those two previous business models is not paying attention.

My primary question is around compensation for team members.

I assume you hope to pull teams that include known players from top 50+ of GPI ? I wonder what would motivate a top tier GPI player, who would instead of playing in say $50,000 - $100,000 of various tournaments with shots at millions, choose to travel GPL circuit. If you add up a fair compensation for the players, then all their travel costs, sponsors are going have to pay good amount for each team.

What does it cost to sponsor a team?

Do you have any sponsors signed up yet?

Who?
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10-10-2015 , 07:19 PM
Is the fact that you are opening the draft to the GPI 1000 a reflection of you confidence?
i.e. It's not the GPI 50 or 100.
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10-10-2015 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by adreyfus
http://www.allinmag.com/poker/inside...l-poker-league

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"According to a press release issued on Tuesday, the GPL, which has a tentative launch date of early 2016, will be played in (hopefully) sold-out stadiums...."

I'd love to know the Kool-Aid recipe that made investors believe this fine nugget lol.
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10-10-2015 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by adreyfus
http://www.allinmag.com/poker/inside...l-poker-league
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If you can get the sponsors, it doesn't really matter what NVG thinks, does it?

I'm kind of warming to the whole idea, tbh, and might even be interested in the 'Daily Fantasy League' element, but I find it quite hard to envision what the game looks like if you "take the gamble out of poker" and don't have players putting up their own buy-ins. Doesn't that just mean the viewer is watching a glorified freeroll? I can barely get excited about a super high roller tourney when 90% of the field swapped action with each other. For me, drama comes from the event meaning something to the participants (like the WSOP does), and I'm not yet convinced that players are desperate to win your league.
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10-11-2015 , 12:58 PM
10-11-2015 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by adreyfus
More power to you for trying something outside the box, err, perhaps inside the cube in this case lol. The biggest challenge imho is that unedited poker tournaments are being pretty boring and unexciting for all but the most diehard fans.

Preflop raise, take it down....preflop raise, take it down.....walk in the big blind....preflop raise, a call, oh my it's a race, ho hum. If you can somehow make this exciting to watch real-time unedited, maybe it'll work. I'm never buying into "sold-out stadiums" mind you lol.
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