I've played drunk shortstack at a 2/2 table with a friend once. We were jamming every other hand and showing bluffs, it completely pissed off all the fish. For some reason they didn't like it when I shipped $50 into $8 with J high, maybe because they hated money. That's the only reason a professional would be against people doing this, a sincere hate of money.

Yeah a fish getting pissed off at it I can kinda understand though. I mean it's stupid of them to get pissed at it but if they are fish they don't really care and just want to "play poker" or whatever...

However a full time player getting annoyed at it? I don't even

^ The professionals live off the fish. So if it annoys the fish it is bad for professionals in the long run.

The more important difference is that it skews it away from being a "mind-sports" event on a level-playing field, which is what attracts them to tournaments and not cash in the first place. Do any golf tournaments let people pay double the entry fee and play two balls?

Everybody thinks its -EV for a pro to shove blind early on

Although there can be little dispute that being on the bad end of a 80/20 is probably -EV, I think there is too much focus on the EV on a per hand basis. I'm sure that the pros who do this (and I know a few), believe it is +EV for them to play with a big/huge stack as opposed to a small/mid stack.

As a big/huge stack, you will be able to enter more pots (more decisions favor better players) and many people will play much differently against you if A) you can't knock them out B) you can knock them out C) their all in is basically a couple of chips off the top of your huge stack.

If you are a good player, this is surely +EV for you, and may even make up for some -EV spots you took early on to build this stack.

Cash games are the same. A big stack, especially if your opponent cannot or will not reload, is a huge influence on the table.

All the money is at the top anyways, your goal is always to win or the final 3. Trying to always min cash is a surefire way to have a losing record.

Personally, I always like to buy in max in any cash game as I find it makes it far harder for people to play against me. However, in no maximum buy in games, sometimes I beat a hasty retreat when the fish I stacked twice decides to buy in enough to cover my augmented stack.

And LOL at people thinking Daniel Negreanu needs to win another bracelet to keep his sponsorship. Poker sites don't base their marketing decisions based on how much a player wins.

No it isn't.

You're doing it wrong.

You've obviously never played in Macau.

Daniel busted in 25th for $36,947

if he is doing this then i dont see the issue? he is really just giving the community back money that pokerstars has been so intent on taking from players

jamming blind in a 10k for 40bigs stfu and take the money

Came across this when watching something else. Gives more insight into DN's thinking re rebuys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RK4goNsasEI

Daniel just got knocked out in 25th place for $36,947. Suspect he missed the cutoff for the Alpha 8 buyin. From the WPT live update it seems he may have lost to a 2 outer on the river.

His A9 lost to AQ AIPF - Board ran out, JT9 8K

Still hope his plugs fall out

i would assume you arent implying i had a problem with it. i was overjoyed that he was seated at my table 3 dif times in the re-entry period.

Everyone knows the key to being the all time WSOP money leader is to play every high buy in event and keep re-buying as many times as possible.

You can spend twice the amount on buy-ins as you get back in payouts but no one will ever know and you will be called the greatest player of all time.

Negreanu is a good example. Even Hellmuth with his bracelets is not a huge accomplishment, since he's played what, like 750 WSOP tournaments and won 13? Is that really a huge accomplishment?

Wasn't there an event where daniel spent $500k with reentry and "won" his $500k back?

That $500k gets added to his "lifetime earnings".

His strategy makes sense if other people are gambling with him but shoving dark when people will only call wih top 10-15% hand shows how much of an ego he has.

So what? Only nits care about frivolous stats like this.