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Old 03-04-2013, 08:13 AM   #1
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Negreanu & Esfandiari involved in cult?

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Turns out Choice Center Las Vegas wasn’t for me. For starters, Choice Center Las Vegas is BBB rated F which usually means it’s a scam of some sort. IMO it’s pretty much a poor-man’s Scientology. Daniel is Tom Cruise and Antonio is John Travolta.
Any new-age rubbish gets a fairly wide scepticism from me but this has smelt of Scientology-style cult behaviour strongly and it turns out I'm not alone in thinking that. If the rumours in the linked article are true (especially that he's now dating someone from CCLV) it sounds like Daniel is in pretty deep.

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Old 03-04-2013, 08:18 AM   #2
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Most interesting part of it for me was him missing NBC heads up for attending the next level of his 'training.'
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:18 AM   #3
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Does it matter?

If they aren't harming anyone, then who cares?
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:21 AM   #4
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well he did fall for those hologram stickers.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:22 AM   #5
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Most interesting part of it for me was him missing NBC heads up for attending the next level of his 'training.'
Agreed. More worrying is that he explained it as having an arrangement with 'friends'

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Does it matter?

If they aren't harming anyone, then who cares?
At the most benign these things are set up purely to make large amounts of money. This doesn't matter for Negreanu or Esfandiari but their celebrity status is likely to inspire people who can't well afford it to join up (see aforementioned Cruise/Travolta for parallels)

At worst they're like Scientology, which has murders, kidnappings, forced abortions and massive control of its members on its rap sheet.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:27 AM   #6
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They're free to do whatever they want and you could make a case for natural selection because if anyone is dumb enough to join them and ruin their lives they kind of deserve it; personally, I don't like that extremist mindset and think people should call them out on their bull****.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:32 AM   #7
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It's worrying if they have any kind of dirt on him. IMO the only reason why Tom Cruise is still lapping up the Scientology is they know big, career-ending (or potentially embarrassing) secrets about him and if he makes waves then he is probably finished, career-wise.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:33 AM   #8
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They're free to do whatever they want and you could make a case for natural selection because if anyone is dumb enough to join them and ruin their lives they kind of deserve it; personally, I don't like that extremist mindset and think people should call them out on their bull****.
No question for me - I have no desire to see scam artists run rampant in our community whether in the form of player-to-player scams or cults with poker celebrity backing.

At the end of the day we can take the piss out of people who fall for this but the entire presentation, from "Leadership University" branding to endorsements to "charity status" is designed to mislead and cloak their true intentions. It shouldn't come as a surprise or be chalked to stupidity that some people fall for it - that's the whole point, after all.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:37 AM   #9
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Was expecting photoshop thread, left disappointed
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:37 AM   #10
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LOL donkaments.

No, really. You have to be pretty stupid to fall for this kind of stuff.
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:40 AM   #11
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d negs doesnt surprise me, but i figured antonio was a little more street smart than this
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Old 03-04-2013, 08:44 AM   #12
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They're free to do whatever they want and you could make a case for natural selection because if anyone is dumb enough to join them and ruin their lives they kind of deserve it; personally, I don't like that extremist mindset and think people should call them out on their bull****.
Daniel and Antonio are perfect targets for groups like that rich well known people. Same with Scientology getting Cruice and Travolta. Strange if true that someone like Daniel gets fooled into something like that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0R_mLFXDdCM
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:09 AM   #13
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Old 03-04-2013, 09:12 AM   #14
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Any new-age rubbish gets a fairly wide scepticism from me but this has smelt of Scientology-style cult behaviour strongly and it turns out I'm not alone in thinking that. If the rumours in the linked article are true (especially that he's now dating someone from CCLV) it sounds like Daniel is in pretty deep.
I don't know if it runs as deep as scientology, it doesn't look like the deep infrastructure that that cult does. Reminds me of Landmark.

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Old 03-04-2013, 09:29 AM   #15
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I think I saw him selling flowers at airport . now we know why he shaved his head. hes and the magician on front page of there wbsite . congrats d-neg your lv127 whatever that means.

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