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05-22-2014 , 06:54 PM
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News broke today that every non-US player interested in playing an event at the World Series of Poker will be recommended to, besides the required passport, bring a second form of ID in order to proof their residency.

The World Series of Poker was made aware of the strengthened federal laws with regards to money laundering in the past week, and WSOP Media Director Seth Palansky was kind enough to give us an explanation on this complicated subject.

"It's not the World Series of Poker that has put this rule in place, this is part of a federal law strengthening process the government of the United States has put in place regarding money laundering," Palansky said, “All companies involved in big financial transactions received an e-mail about this last week stating that an attempt should be made to verify residency of international customers.”

“This federal law does not just apply to poker or casinos, it’s something that has to do with all major financial institutions that deal with large money transfers. The advice to bring a second form of ID, or a utility bill, does not just help you at the WSOP but also at all other casinos you wish to play,” Palansky said about people wanting to play in any of the Las Vegas poker tournaments.

“We are very much aware of the fact that non-US ID cards and driver licenses don’t have address information, but this federal law wants us to be able to prove where someone is residing. So any phone bill, gas bill, credit card bill, drivers license or rent statement would help with the identification process as long as it has your address information. In the end, in order to get paid out, you need to proof some form of residency,” Palansky said.
http://igaming.org/poker/news/breaki...d-online-play/
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05-23-2014 , 05:03 AM
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“All companies involved in big financial transactions received an e-mail about this last week stating that an attempt should be made to verify residency of international customers.”
The WSOP were notified by email? It then took them a week to let players know?
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05-23-2014 , 09:48 AM
A ton of non US players already in Vegas. I bet non of them have a gas bill in their pocket.

[x]beat
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05-23-2014 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by kerr
The WSOP were notified by email? It then took them a week to let players know?
That is true BUT I bet they all have a second form of I. D.
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05-23-2014 , 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by bmwteam
A ton of non US players already in Vegas. I bet non of them have a gas bill in their pocket.

[x]beat
A statement from their bank would be enough. All they need to do is call their bank and have them email.
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05-23-2014 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bmwteam
A ton of non US players already in Vegas. I bet non of them have a gas bill in their pocket.

[x]beat
So your saying they don't have online billing any where else in the world but here?
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05-23-2014 , 10:56 AM
Step 1: Print off your cell phone / cable bill from your online account
Step 2: Get on with your life
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05-23-2014 , 11:55 AM
Briefly, this article and the reported statement make very little sense.

1. It seems the reported statement refers to online poker and assures everyone that they can make WSOP live tournament deposits just fine:

"At the end of the day our obligation is to do our due diligence. It’s not going to prevent anyone from playing or withdrawing funds. That’s for sure, but it may prevent them from playing online poker because that does call for a utility bill to prove your residency. "

2. I think Caesars knows better than to shoot itself in the foot re buy-ins and payouts from the live WSOP events, i.e. the buy-in for most events is way under $10K and they can issue a check for winnings.

3. If anyone in Las Vegas has a concern about carrying cash back to Europe, the D Hotel Casino on Fremont Street (Downtown) has provided a Robocoin bitcoin ATM for buying bitcoin for cash, I understand the daily limit is $10K.

4. If anyone is hesitant to accept a check from Caesars, feel free to pm me.
(FWIW, I am attending a seminar in Las Vegas in June about Gaming and AML, well before the Main Event. I believe that the head of FinCEN will be available for Q&A. I can always ask about this potential "friction" then.)
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05-23-2014 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Bitter13
Step 1: Print off your cell phone / cable bill from your online account
Step 2: Get on with your life
1000000%

Get real and move on people!
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05-23-2014 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitter13
Step 1: Print off your cell phone / cable bill from your online account
Step 2: Get on with your life
I would guess most older recreational players don't have online billing. Then again, they aren't browsing 2+2, either.
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05-23-2014 , 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitter13
Step 1: Print off your cell phone / cable bill from your online account
Step 2: Get on with your life
Cell phone bills aren't usually accepted as proof of address for AML purposes


just saying
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05-23-2014 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by poorolrich
That is true BUT I bet they all have a second form of I. D.
more than you think don't
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05-23-2014 , 02:22 PM
seems shady that wsop let this news out so late, i feel like it would benefit the wsop so much more if they got this news out earlier
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05-23-2014 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The4thFilm
I would guess most older recreational players don't have online billing. Then again, they aren't browsing 2+2, either.
I am 47 next month and I do/ have both, stereotype much?

UK driving licence has address info so that should cover that.
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05-23-2014 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by beauvanlaanen
seems shady that wsop let this news out so late, i feel like it would benefit the wsop so much more if they got this news out earlier
The second part of your statement does not follow the first half. Just the opposite!
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05-23-2014 , 05:34 PM
There's been a further update from Ty Stewart, stating the the WSOP is requesting a 2nd form of ID to validate their address:

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2014/0...licy-18318.htm
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05-23-2014 , 07:03 PM
5 days before it starts well played
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05-23-2014 , 07:14 PM
don't they have a guarantee on the main event this year? Would suck if they miss it because not enough foreigners carry around a 2nd ID.
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05-23-2014 , 07:30 PM
The person behind this move is prob one of those mouth breathers that thinks online poker is 90 pct money laundering for terrorism
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05-24-2014 , 12:34 AM
How exactly does one launder money in a live poker tournament?
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05-24-2014 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
How exactly does one launder money in a live poker tournament?
Taxation may also be a reason. IRS has really been clamping down on offshore and non-resident stuff.
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05-24-2014 , 02:02 AM
**** you WSOP. You just gave me another reason to stay away.
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05-24-2014 , 02:13 AM
I still don't understand how the only verification players have is that the WSOP received an email.

There's no link, report, release, document, nothing, just an email?

But as Ty Stewart says, there is no actual requirement for a non-US player to provide an ID with an address, you can still convey it verbally.
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05-24-2014 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by idun215
don't they have a guarantee on the main event this year? Would suck if they miss it because not enough foreigners carry around a 2nd ID.
Only need 1064 entries to reach the guarantee, although that would be 10m winner take all.

Why do poker festivals ever guarantee 1st rather than guarantee a prize pool? The Aussie Millions got cocky after their biggest year in 2008 and guaranteed 2m ftw in 2009 (a 21.2% increase), only to see a fall of 12.7% in entries.

The WSOP pay structure will be interesting to see.

Last edited by kerr; 05-24-2014 at 02:54 AM.
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05-24-2014 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RonMexico
How exactly does one launder money in a live poker tournament?
Entry = Crim Cash
Winnings = Cheque with credible source

It is casinos in general not just poker tournaments.
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