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10-29-2008, 04:51 PM
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Tripod
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Norma's Diner
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
well this is going to go well.
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10-29-2008, 04:52 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2007
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
Brandi 2.0?
This will end well.
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10-29-2008, 04:53 PM
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stranger
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Beverly Hills
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by Woodworth
You acted like a total bitch to Craig and everyone else and he called you out on it. What do you have to say about you bitching about the clock on crucial hands? It WAS rude.
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First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.
Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.
Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
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10-29-2008, 04:56 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Had dem pocket 77s
Posts: 1,514
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by tiffanymichelle
First, the Craig things was terribly edited... I'm pretty sure he'll even tell you that we were having a fun banter back and forth where I was picking on him (in good nature) about how long he took to make decisions every hand. He was laughing about it!
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the second or third time I've ever done that.
Obviously ESPN doesn't show or tell you how long Paul Snead was taking to make a decision (it was a looooooooooonge time) and if it appeared that he was anywhere close to making a decision I would have stayed silent.... but you weren't there, I was and he wasn't anywhere close to a decision. I had been at the table with him for awhile and this was his typical process to make a bit of a fuss over his hands and his calls. He'd get up, pace around, talk to the audience and his friends on the rail. People forget that we're all on camera, we're at a featured table, player's games change soooooooo much under those settings and it becomes more 'acting' and soaking up your five minutes of fame than actually playing a game of poker. I can guarantee you that if the TV cameras weren't rolling it wouldn't have taken him half as long to make a decision there. So yes, I chose to hold him accountable to the game of POKER even if it made me look less classy than humor another 'Hollywood-er'.
Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.
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Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
Last edited by craigmarq; 10-29-2008 at 04:57 PM.
Reason: ended up retyping it after she mentioned me
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10-29-2008, 04:57 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SE Forum
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
If what Norman said was true and you had 50 BBs at that time, you weren't shortstacked
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10-29-2008, 04:57 PM
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old hand
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Rambling
Posts: 1,808
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
[QUOTE=tiffanymichelle;6853652]
And I'm glad someone brought up the clock things. I'm shocked that none of you have EVER under ANY circumstance called the clock in the middle of a poker game...ever? Trust me, I don't make a habit of calling the clock on second or third time I've ever done that. people. I think in four years of playing tournaments that was probably the
Please don't forget that the two of us were playing the same game for the same stakes. He was taking his time to decide and I was practicing my right (within the rules people) to ask for the clock since I was getting short stacked and the blinds were increasing... MY tournament life was at stake just as much as his.[QUOTE]
Firstly, yes I have called a clock. It was NOT near the end of the biggest tournament in the world. You had 50 big blinds and that is NOT "short." Grow up. Secondly, no, your tournament life was not at stake just as much as his was. If I ever am at your table, I will make a point to clock you. You had a chance to enrich poker as a product for all of us, and you failed horribly. Thanks.
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10-29-2008, 04:58 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 13,749
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
poasting in EPIC thread
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10-29-2008, 04:58 PM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 88
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by tiffanymichelle
I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.
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I know first hand that one of the people who played with you (he usually wears a NY Jets jersey) called you a word that rhymes with "punt" due to your disrespectful actions at the table.
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10-29-2008, 04:59 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 20
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
I wish you had been a better representative for women poker players.
Congratulations on your success. I hope you learn something from it.
P.S. The UB affiliation is laughable. I don't care what they promised you; they have no integrity and now neither do you.
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10-29-2008, 04:59 PM
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adept
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: nj
Posts: 997
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by craigmarq
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
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o wow
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10-29-2008, 04:59 PM
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adept
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,065
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by tiffanymichelle
Before you judge remember that you saw 7 EDITED TV hours of a tournament that I played for an entire week and close to 100 hours of time. I don't think there is a single person who I played with live who would walk away and say anything negative about how I personally treated them at the tables or that I didn't show respect to my fellow table mates.
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Did anyone else call a clock on someone in a massive pot deep in the tournament when they themselves were not in the hand?
Did any other women openly celebrate as the field was narrowing, in hopes that they would be the last woman standing?
It seemed clear that you wanted to be the last woman in the tournament in order for you to get more publicity. Well, you did. Was it positive? Most people here seem to think you came across poorly, and I agree with them.
Your attitude, ethics (or lack thereof - wearing the UB logo), and general persona were very unflattering.
GL in life.
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10-29-2008, 05:00 PM
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adept
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Highway 2 Hell
Posts: 1,115
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
Miss Tiffany, as someone who has met you and liked you for some time, I felt your behavior was not good, it was rather painful to watch even the attempts at sarcasm..
and as for backhanding Mr G and Jeff L, very poor form and very disappointing..
GL for the future, cause karma is an evil animal
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10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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veteran
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,271
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
I didn't even read the OP but obviously TM is trying to say that she is not a horrid person and that ESPN EDITED her to appear that way.
Well.....look right above this and you can clearly see that a guy who was THERE, not watching it on TV maintains that she was out of line and is generally an awful human being.
TM, you had your 15 min. Don't go away mad, just go away!!
A woman going that deep in the ME and have nothing to show for it publicity wise but negativity is gross.
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10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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grinder
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SE Forum
Posts: 448
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
Get yo popcorn ready
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10-29-2008, 05:01 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 4,333
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Re: MY TURN - Tiffany Michelle's post-WSOP thoughts!
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Originally Posted by craigmarq
Yeah. This is all well and good after the fact, but you were extremely disrespectful and unbelievably rude while we were playing in just about every situation you could be. I feel like those 7 edited episodes accurately depicted your behavior during the tournament, and you can say it was "your table face" or whatever, but your calling the clock during the Paul Snead and Scott Montgomery hand in what is probably the most stressful situation the man has ever been just boggles my mind. Also this is coming from somebody who is judging you entirely on his personal experience with you, not from the any media-skewed perspective.
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lol onwed.
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