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My friend busted the 1500 PLO WSOP to rivered quads with two Qhearts on board My friend busted the 1500 PLO WSOP to rivered quads with two Qhearts on board

06-18-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
I suspect photoshop. Those two Qh's look exactly the same.
The Q of 's looked like the Q of 's?
My friend busted the 1500 PLO WSOP to rivered quads with two Qhearts on board Quote
06-18-2014 , 08:04 PM
At least it wasn't a one outer.
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06-18-2014 , 08:05 PM
I'd have to agree that it's too late for compensation, unless WSOP has the ability to locate the casino camera's to confirm (unlikely they will) the photo posted could easily have been shopped, not that it was, but this is just not how these things should be handled.

There is a certain level of responsibility that falls on the player to protect themselves, something like this should never go unnoticed.
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06-18-2014 , 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UrMoneyPays4
How the hell does no one at the table notice??? There's a dealer getting paid to be there and a handful of players who paid to play and not a singe one noticed this?
You think its obvious but when you're so used to a deck of 52 different cards you would be surprised how easy it would be to not notice this, especially when the attention is on the fact that this guy just got one outed for all the money.
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06-18-2014 , 08:14 PM
Time for a 4-color deck clearly
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06-18-2014 , 09:08 PM
Lol the whole table should be eliminated and the dealer fired for not noticing a foul deck. My god. Nut low observation skills imo.

Last edited by TheBearcat; 06-18-2014 at 09:15 PM.
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06-18-2014 , 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by UrMoneyPays4
How the hell does no one at the table notice??? There's a dealer getting paid to be there and a handful of players who paid to play and not a singe one noticed this?
It is possible one or more players noticed and didn't say anything. Not likely but... possible.

WSOP do some due diligence on this and refund this guy his $1,500 ffs.
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06-18-2014 , 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
The Q of 's looked like the Q of 's?
lol'd hard
My friend busted the 1500 PLO WSOP to rivered quads with two Qhearts on board Quote
06-18-2014 , 10:11 PM
refund is definitely in order...the least WSOP can do
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06-18-2014 , 10:13 PM
LOl @ nobody noticing...
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06-18-2014 , 10:23 PM
Do all tourney tables use auto-shufflers?
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06-18-2014 , 10:26 PM
Call gaming. You prob will not get a favorable ruling but it's a freeroll and they have the power to review tape.
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06-18-2014 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Fish Taco
The Q of 's looked like the Q of 's?
Not just looked like; exactly like. Obvious copy/paste situation.
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06-18-2014 , 10:32 PM
Horrible.

Casino should at least give him a free entry ticket to the same tournament for next year.
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06-18-2014 , 10:40 PM
Highly doubt it's photoshopped, I've seen alot of shops in my day and those pixels look A OK
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06-18-2014 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by thrasher789
Highly doubt it's photoshopped, I've seen alot of shops in my day and those pixels look A OK
IDK. I've played live almost fulltime for years, and I've NEVER seen a deck with two exactly identical queen of hearts in it.
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06-18-2014 , 10:46 PM
sticky situation. not really sure how it should be dealt with. there is an argument once the hand is over it's over, but it's pretty negligent for the wsop to have something like this happen.
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06-18-2014 , 10:48 PM
I've known the guy who got busted by the foul deck for a long time. His integrity record with me has zero blemishes. He texted me a long series with all the details of this ordeal after he figured out what happened--> pretty much 0% this is a scam in my estimation.

I told him that since it wasn't noticed on the spot (all chips in the pot would/should have been returned if it had) there was nothing WSOP could/should do wrt putting him back in this tournament or whatever. And he gets that I'm pretty sure...

But should he get a refund?

He spoke with the higher ups (Jack and someone else) at WSOP about his issue/picture of the foul deck bustout and they offered him nothing but an apology...

I think this is wrong/complete bull****. He should be refunded AT LEAST his entry fee (I would actually work out an equity calc based on stack, what level it was, the payout structure, etc, if I were him and I'd demand that amount) since he was the victim of the extremely dubious error made by the WSOP.

Not only are all tournament players "customers", but this guy has been playing events for ~ 10 years and is a Diamond Club member (I suggested he talk to a host at Rio) fwiw. And if WSOP can't prove/disprove the authenticity of this claim because their own surveillance is subpar, well that's something they need to address moving forward. The customer is always right/gets the benefit of the doubt, especially on his/her first claim.

And as far as "how did nobody at the table notice?" It's lol live poker. It's incredibly slow and mind-numbing, and there are a ton of distractions all around---> this kind of thing happens all the time. The dealer is often on life tilt/perhaps new, anyone not in the pot usually doesn't care too much about what is going on (they are often replaying a hand in their heads or doing something on their phones or whatever) and the two people in the pot often get caught up in the moment... How did Phil Ivey fold the best hand at showdown deep in the Main Event a few years ago? It happens.

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GL man, I hope they do the right thing. They could use the PR bump as well it seems.
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06-18-2014 , 10:54 PM
I am also skeptical that the dealer and 9/10 players didn't notice that there were 2 Queen of hearts on the board.
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06-18-2014 , 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by browser2920
IDK. I've played live almost fulltime for years, and I've NEVER seen a deck with two exactly identical queen of hearts in it.
Have you also NEVER seen a thread about this happening at least once like every single year at WSOP?

I've seen duplicate card in person at least 3 times in my life that I can remember. And I don't even play at the madhouse that is Rio/WSOP...

For some reason, each time I think it's been QQ same suit .
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06-18-2014 , 10:56 PM
This is 100% not shopped. I am friends with the player. Rio should have at least taken some time to review the tapes and considered re-reimbursing his buy-in. When players get an unfair advantages in the casino they with hold payouts but when the players get screwed they almost always say "too bad". For those arguing the point, only a fool when bring a photo-shopped photo to gaming management asking for compensation.
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06-18-2014 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DGAF
Have you also NEVER seen a thread about this happening at least once like every single year at WSOP?

I've seen duplicate card in person at least 3 times in my life that I can remember. And I don't even play at the madhouse that is Rio/WSOP...

For some reason, each time I think it's been QQ same suit .
I can't keep up this charade, the pressure is too great. My first comment about the Qs looking the same was a joke, since of course they would look the same. I left off the guy because I thought it was pretty obvious. But then when someone responded to it, I decided to try my first ever troll post. But I feel too bad to keep it up, since trolling just isn't in my nature, so I'm stopping. I'm sorry.

Last edited by browser2920; 06-18-2014 at 11:00 PM. Reason: But I did have a few people going!
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06-18-2014 , 11:09 PM
No ****ing way a dealer and a bunch of players don't notice this, especially after leaving the board out long enough to take a picture.
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06-18-2014 , 11:10 PM
If the person taking the picture simply put down the camera/phone,they would have noticed 2 queen of hearts.
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06-18-2014 , 11:11 PM
this is what happens when you play a game with two many cards
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