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my dealings with Max Heinzelmann my dealings with Max Heinzelmann

09-20-2014 , 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by turoo
(at first he wanted to come 2nd week, then 4th, then only for the main. i guess he never even made it to vegas)
I definitely saw him sitting in the Main
09-20-2014 , 07:44 PM
Guys like him that make those A6o plays have to start, sooner or later, a scamming career, it's just mathematical.
The "run over ev heater" can't last forever, can it ? (i know live poker is LOL small term, but it was to make a joke about "no surprizing it is to see a guy like him scam when you see the type of plays he made" ... )
09-20-2014 , 08:25 PM
+1 asked me yesterday. Confirmed changed man
09-20-2014 , 08:37 PM
you know your a scumbag when one of your relatives dies and people don't believe you when you tell them.
09-20-2014 , 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by I'mAFrenchDonkey
Guys like him that make those A6o plays have to start, sooner or later, a scamming career, it's just mathematical.
The "run over ev heater" can't last forever, can it ? (i know live poker is LOL small term, but it was to make a joke about "no surprizing it is to see a guy like him scam when you see the type of plays he made" ... )
best post in thread
09-20-2014 , 10:01 PM
Randomly spoke to me recently, was wondering why since we hadn't spoken in years, sigh, Max, thought you were okay.
09-21-2014 , 02:55 AM
All of the above is correct and I realize what ive done to all the people that used to trust me, and I can understand the anger, frustration and even hatred towards me and what ive done. I never expect anyone to trust/like me again. I will make sure to fix this as fast as I can. Instead of covering up lies with more lies I shouldve been straight forward and honest with all these people, and what I did. I wasnt and that just got me into more trouble and now thats what the outcome is. All I can do now is fix everything that ive done wrong and make sure everyone gets paid back as fast as possible. I dont expect or deserve any sympathy for what Ive done and I realize that.
09-21-2014 , 03:03 AM
how do you plan on fixing this? how about fixing you!
09-21-2014 , 04:35 AM
R.I.P. Max's mother ...
09-21-2014 , 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by HotKarlMC
All of the above is correct and I realize what ive done to all the people that used to trust me, and I can understand the anger, frustration and even hatred towards me and what ive done. I never expect anyone to trust/like me again. I will make sure to fix this as fast as I can. Instead of covering up lies with more lies I shouldve been straight forward and honest with all these people, and what I did. I wasnt and that just got me into more trouble and now thats what the outcome is. All I can do now is fix everything that ive done wrong and make sure everyone gets paid back as fast as possible. I dont expect or deserve any sympathy for what Ive done and I realize that.
Do you play just MTTS? Do you play cash games? Can you beat them?
09-21-2014 , 07:58 AM
so a stranger messages you asking for 6.5k loan and you just give it to him? degens scamming degens always makes me laugh.
09-21-2014 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by HotKarlMC
All of the above is correct and I realize what ive done to all the people that used to trust me, and I can understand the anger, frustration and even hatred towards me and what ive done. I never expect anyone to trust/like me again. I will make sure to fix this as fast as I can. Instead of covering up lies with more lies I shouldve been straight forward and honest with all these people, and what I did. I wasnt and that just got me into more trouble and now thats what the outcome is. All I can do now is fix everything that ive done wrong and make sure everyone gets paid back as fast as possible. I dont expect or deserve any sympathy for what Ive done and I realize that.
How can people be sure that this is not just a lie? He hasn't all of a sudden become a changed man. He is reeling because he has been exposed and saying all the things he believes people want to hear. The tone of this post is playing to the readers humanity and forcing us to be moved by his humility.

He does NOT deserve sympathy or praise for "manning up to his mistakes". He was called out plain and simple and his responses are designed manipulations in my opinion.
09-22-2014 , 07:13 PM
What else is he supposed to say? Better that than silence. All that's missing is a repayment plan that doesn't involve borrowing from others. Otherwise, a step in the right direction.
09-23-2014 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
so a stranger messages you asking for 6.5k loan and you just give it to him? degens scamming degens always makes me laugh.
Most ******ed post of the year goes to.................
09-23-2014 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaylee18
Most ******ed post of the year goes to.................
Don't worry, he tries almost every day
09-23-2014 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by slystyle012
What else is he supposed to say? Better that than silence. All that's missing is a repayment plan that doesn't involve borrowing from others. Otherwise, a step in the right direction.
wrong. anything he says now means nothing. doesnt matter if he stays silent/apologizes/says **** you. all that matters is if he starts making payments (no matter how big, any and all payments are good)

actions, not words, matter.
09-23-2014 , 01:36 AM
Dave Ramsey's 'Debt Snowball' may help Max!
09-23-2014 , 07:15 PM
ugh, got me for 4k, owed since may pretty much the same story with excuses and delays

what gave me confidence was him being in USA the whole time partying with people like mickmack, sean sullivan and other former well known mtt regs, anyone of them can chime in?
09-23-2014 , 09:41 PM
Relying on an MTT specialist to formulate a repayment plan based on playing MTT's is questionable if that's the plan.
09-23-2014 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HotKarlMC
I am very well aware of what I did, and yes I did lie to a lot of people about what I did just to cover up what I did. Im trying to figure out paying everyone back at this point and fixing and owning up to my mistakes. I dont ever expect to have anyone respecting me again or anything for what Ive done, and thats fine. Ive ****ed up and im very well aware of that. Ive made a lot of mistakes and Im ashamed of the way I handled it. Ill do my best to pay everyone back as quickly as I can and make sure that I own up to what ive done wrong.

Im in contact with the people that I owe money to and Im trying to correct this as quickly as I can.
Last I heard you were going to pay me in a couple days. You've been lying to me for over a year now and I wonder how much credit with me you would have ran up had I not cut you off. I loaned you money cause I thought you were a friend and I trusted you, but after dealing with you throughout all this I realize how narcissistic you are. One day when I asked for repayment you somehow tried to spin the entire situation around as if you were the victim (as if loaning you money is a privilege. I don't believe anything you say with regards to being sorry otherwise you would have stopped thieving long ago or at least would have apologized to me and the other people you owe. I do believe that you're sorry you got caught.

I'm still owed 3500. FU for freerolling my live action as well.

I would like to see a comprehensive list of everyone that you owe with $ amounts.
09-23-2014 , 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by slystyle012
What else is he supposed to say? Better that than silence. All that's missing is a repayment plan that doesn't involve borrowing from others. Otherwise, a step in the right direction.
lol come on norm... all thats missing is the 6 figures of money that he stole from people.
09-23-2014 , 11:13 PM
I think @ this point its safe to assume ALL poker players are scammers.

I am probably scamming right now by posting this!
09-23-2014 , 11:32 PM
I guess that's possible since we play a game of deception.
09-23-2014 , 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Parts Unknown
Last I heard you were going to pay me in a couple days. You've been lying to me for over a year now and I wonder how much credit with me you would have ran up had I not cut you off. I loaned you money cause I thought you were a friend and I trusted you, but after dealing with you throughout all this I realize how narcissistic you are. One day when I asked for repayment you somehow tried to spin the entire situation around as if you were the victim (as if loaning you money is a privilege. I don't believe anything you say with regards to being sorry otherwise you would have stopped thieving long ago or at least would have apologized to me and the other people you owe. I do believe that you're sorry you got caught.

I'm still owed 3500. FU for freerolling my live action as well.

I would like to see a comprehensive list of everyone that you owe with $ amounts.
well, I spoke with Kevin (1$ickdisease) yesterday because Kevin told me during the summer that he had given Max some cash and was supposed to get Stars in return and I informed him of this thread. He said he hasn't gotten 0 and since he doesn't post or check forums etc, that I could post it itt for him.

Max owes him 22k. Kinda ****ty cuz he asked me during the summer but I didn't give him any and even after the series, he was in vegas and came to hang out with me n my buddy actin as if everything was ok
09-23-2014 , 11:56 PM
Judging by those coming out of the wordwork and the figures posted ITT already, seems like Max could owe well over $250K...Max?

      
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