Its cheating. Try wearing a professional mask to the WSOP ME and cashing. See if you get the $$. same thing. violation of TOS. just because it hasnt been tested in courts yet doesnt mean the outcome is pretty lol obvious.

Above I provided a link to a precedential ruling, did you read it?

Well, punishable by something. I'm not going to read the whole thing. Being barred from playing at least. Without going any further in the regs this would at least be a TOS violation. Not worth reading any further to see what constitutes cheating by statute.

10. Record the patron’s acknowledgement that he or she is prohibited from
allowing any
other person to access or use his or her Internet or mobile gaming account; and
11.
Notify the patron of the establishment of the account via electronic mail or regular
mail.
(c) A patron shall have only one Internet or mobile gaming account f
or each casino licensee. Each
Internet or mobile gaming account shall be:
•
Non
-
transferable;
•
Unique to the patron who establishes the account; and
•
Distinct from any other account number that the patron may have established with the
casino licensee.

Nothing can stop players from sharing accounts so it's not surprise it is going on so often. It's ridiculously easy and profitable.

That being said, in cases like harrington there definitely seems to be something fishy going on so I hope the sites are investigating.

FWIW, it seems the Ongame-multiaccounting quoted in OP has stopped. I haven't seen said accounts online for a while.

Surely they are more likely to not ban the losing players, which would be keeping the high stakes games going more than winning players. Obviously people wise up to the winning MAers and eventually stop giving them action (as with most of the Harrington accounts).

Substantiate 'corporate lawyers' having poor moral values..?

You you ever worked as, for or with a corporate lawyer? Do you actually know anything of corporate legal practise?

Forgive me if you were just using a tired humourless cliché and meant nothing much of it.

wasn't that durrrr quote from a few years ago? You should really put the date on that. Times change and there was a time when MAing wasn't as big of a deal as it is now.

Slight derail here, but going back to what someone said a few posts back about not being able to play the WSOP ME, cash and then be paid if they were wearing a mask...

Could one not turn up in a full burka and play, citing religious grounds? Any online wizard could feasibly do this and run deep in the main.

Just a hypothetical, but interested in the responses, especially since said WSOP occurs in 'Murica where the burka is probably not going to be as well received as in other parts of the world.

Nope, 15 March 2013, so the quote is not outdated.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=374

I would bet half my roll that the barcode account has been played by at least 2(probably 3 different players). Harrington is for sure playing on multi accounts. People have a problem with these guys, as theyre so good. Some of the other multi accounters create a lot of action and will eventually lose, so people dont mind so much about them. if these sites could just create a level platform so noone could cheat, then things would be a lot fairer.

Cant wait for the first cheating to be caught by Ultimate Poker and sent to Nevada Gaming Commission which is foaming at the mouth for cheaters. They will make the culprits an example with jail time something that no other site can do=thus the cheating will continue

Who do you think are playing the Barcode? Di and Hac Dang? Others? Why do you think this?
Did Barcode account play before black friday?

What multiaccounters dont people mind to much? Ipokerparty is covered pretty well in this thread?

It seem logical to have most problems with those people multiaccounting and cheating the hardest.

I'm assuming the answer is yes. The case I posted above was considerably more extreme than that. The defendant was a known card counter and understood that under his real identity he would not be allowed to play blackjack for any significant number of hands. He thus resorted to false ID and provided a forged foreign passport, a misdemeanor criminal offense, and because of that was allowed to play blackjack for a significant period of time. He proceeded to win 44K before being recognized. He again provided the forged ID to cash out his chips. The casino refunded his deposit but kept only his winnings. The court ruled that the casino had no right to retain the funds he won because the elements of fraud were not met.

That's now established case law in Nevada and if you think about it there are pretty deep implications for arguments of multiaccounting either being cheating or even being subject to any kind of account forfeiture.

Wow, that surprises me. I stand corrected.

insecure much bro?

Meh, seems like you guys have been talking about this dude for a long time - they can't make a case against a top level player in this sort of time frame?

Lol!! "Phil, uh uh uh uh uh uh uh.................." ".............no"

ya i mean theres a bunch of actually cheated live poker games and way shadier stuff going on in the poker world than multiaccounting.

to be clear someone colluding (having 2 accounts in the same game) is outrageous and can + should be stopped. people playing on different accounts vs new people they havent played before isnt cool but is closer to angleshooting than marking the cards. a lot of people have multiaccounted vs me and unless its a personal friend i dont think its that big of a deal (im still not happy with it seeing as i give everyone action so i think its bs for them to do), but everyone else gets all worked up about it and yet a bunch of those same people will go play questionable live games.

also to clarify i think people who are clearly fish multiaccounting b/c they prefer anonymity is pretty kosher and should be policed similarly to someone going 2mph over the speed limit.

I have never seen so many fail posts by a single poster before. Gj ralph.

Also, lol caligula.

The fight against multi-accounting is worthless. The hypocrisy in this thread is amazing. Most of the high/middle stakes guys have done it in the past or know someone who did it but didnt say anything because it wasnt in their advantage (either a massive fish, a friend, a friend of a friend,someone with great influence over the community, etc).

Also, whats the difference between multi-accounting and 2-3 players in front of the same monitor? Person A is playing hu with X. A's friends, C,D, and E have X's stats and have played him countless times. During the games, C,D and E share their opinion.

agreed in the perfect world.

yet still to hard to draw the line on this. The argument "xxxx has multiple accounts why am I the one getting punished" is to strong.

Surely the sites need to address why this is happening? xxxxx is probably doing it to get action, especially at Heads Up.

If Bleznick fired up Stars or Full Tilt right now how many of those players (bumhunters) would play him? Maybe 5%? Often none.

What choice to players have if they can't find anyone that will give them action HU? Except maybe three/four guys like Sauce, Ben86 etc who play anyone