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Old 08-24-2013, 12:57 PM   #16
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

Could be solved by having different chips each day. Of course i don't know if that is feasible or profitable for the casino but it seems an easy fix.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:20 PM   #17
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

Mike is the Nuts...and is Nuts...but that's a story for another time.

I agree with most of what he said....all these multiple reentry tournaments benefit players with big rolls and the casino.

Rec players are left out in the cold taking 1 or 2 shots with their limited roll.

Add to that the possibility of smuggling chips by unscrupulous players (is Men the Master playing this?)....and it adds up to "bad for poker" IMO
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:42 PM   #18
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

i think that with multiple same day bullets, high rollers can sit there flicking it in blind every hand, whereas the recreational players have to value their buy in, only to have Mr high roller knock them out because he fancied a gamble and can afford the numerous reloads. I think that 1 BI per day and 4 or 5 day ones would ease this massively.
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:52 PM   #19
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

Re entry's most likely make it easier for rec players. 1 being tney can have a few buyins to run hot or just keep buyin back In until tney get cards. 2nd lets use the post it's harder to knock Phil Ivey out 7 times. Well if Ivey is rebuying 7+ times I'm sure he's trying to chip up and not getting his money in great every time. In a way its leveling tne playing field(huge stretch i know but think it has some validity)This could benefit A rec player with only 1 or 2 bullets. It has it's advantages and disadvantages, I don't think it's better or worse. For some reason tne first thing I thought of is "move up to where they respect your raise". If people are getting in theirs money light i don't see why Otner people are complaining. I understand tournaments are a different animal but it's not all bad
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Old 08-24-2013, 01:58 PM   #20
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

Think about it this way. Would you rather play a tournie with 1k people or 650 with rebuys that has a total of 1k buyins. Ill take the rebuy with 1 billet becaue the first rounds i have a better chance of someone doubling me up
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:11 PM   #21
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

or a better chance of having the AA you were waiting for crushed by the 72o by the person who's re-bought the last 14 hands.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:23 PM   #22
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

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Doesn't the value of a chip decrease as blinds go up?
No, but in anything but winner-take-all tournaments, the mathematical equity value of each chip decreases as you get more chips, because you don't win all the prize money if you get all the chips.

However, for a pro there is also value to having a big stack, in terms of 1.) bullying 2.) deeper stacks means you can play more implied odds hands and have more shots at finding profitable spots 3.) when you find those spots, you can make more from them
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:28 PM   #23
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Don't understand why re-entries are bad.

Can sosome explain this to me mathematically.
Many players with a LAG-type style are at a pretty big disadvantage if they can't chip up early because they can't threaten their opponent's TOURNAMENT LIVES!!1!!!!1!!1 So they hate to see a bunch of huge stacks getting built because a few rich pros decide to gambool it up.

Plus see my previous post for a more detailed analysis.

Personally, I'm just as happy playing a TAG, shorter-stack style, letting the LAGs and degens throw a bunch of money into the prize pool, and taking my chances with my one or two bullets. With a little luck these can be very profitable spots.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:30 PM   #24
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or a better chance of having the AA you were waiting for crushed by the 72o by the person who's re-bought the last 14 hands.
Play tournaments where they respect your raise again it has it advantages and disadvantages .
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:41 PM   #25
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

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Re entry's most likely make it easier for rec players.
um no. a lot of recreational players satellited in and only have one bullet. a lot of rec players either don't have the roll or just won't buy into a $5k tournament more than once. sure if you are playing $100 re entry it wouldn't matter to most but that isn't the case here. people that can fire off multiple bullets will sometimes take a shot trying to get chips that they might not take if they couldn't re-enter.
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Old 08-24-2013, 02:43 PM   #26
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Sort of off-topic, but Matusow was awesome yesterday. In that interview he talked about a few other topics (which are being saved for another video), so it took up about half of his break. Immediately afterward a handicapped guy (I think he had cerebral palsy) asked for a picture, and Mike spent some time taking pictures and talking to him. I think he had like 3 minutes to himself when it was all done.

DN is well known for being nice about that stuff, but Mike deserves some credit too.
Mike has sent me 500$ for a trivia once. I bought his book, and it is really good.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:21 PM   #27
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Re entry's most likely make it easier for rec players. 1 being tney can have a few buyins to run hot or just keep buyin back In until tney get cards.
exactly. because we all know a lot of rec players that like to take multiple shots at 5k buy in tourneys
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:26 PM   #28
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

So your stance is players with more buy ins have an advantage, clearly . Sure some people satellited in but if your gonna blow 5k on a tournie as a rec player I'm sure your wealthy. Also tneres this crazy idea of playing a 5k without rebuys.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:40 PM   #29
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

No one is forcing you to play in a re-entry tournament. There are a million poker tournaments going on at any time all around the world. Just don't play it it and play in a freeze-out one instead. I do agree that re-buy tourneys only help those with deep pockets, pros and the house but it's not like freezeouts aren't being offered. Unless the rec players enter the rebuy tourney not realizing the implications of it but oh well.
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Old 08-24-2013, 03:41 PM   #30
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Re: Mike Matusow on potential chip smuggling, collusion, re-entry thoughts at SHRPO

Somehow, i don't think Jersey gets it
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