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Old 04-25-2009, 02:05 PM   #301
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

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I continue to play on the network on a daily basis which I'm sure that MGS employees wouldn't be allowed to do.
I respect all the work that you've put into this, but why not do the right thing and switch to ANY other site/network?
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Old 04-25-2009, 02:15 PM   #302
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I understand mellows view point. for one though without MGS's help I don;t think we could ever pin anything down on tusk. MGS knows more abotu tusk than anyother party in my opinion. The liquidators themselves seem to think tusk behaved fine. I don;t neccesarily agree there but how are we suppose to pin anythign on tusk? Governments will not didicate any resources to goign after onlien casinos.

I really think mgs is out biggest hope.

sorry 8 tabling my speelingf is worse than normal
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Old 04-25-2009, 03:06 PM   #303
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I respect all the work that you've put into this, but why not do the right thing and switch to ANY other site/network?
I would consider changing networks if there was conclusive proof of MGS wrongdoing presented, however, to this point everything is complete speculation.

The main critism of MGS seems be their silence on the issue.

In the past I've attempted to circumvent the poker room operator in order to discuss specific software issues directly with MGS and was told emphatically that MGS never talks directly to a player.

The Unibet rep has also told us that MGS does not have the email addresses for their players, so it follows that MGS doesn't have the email addresses for the Tusk players either.

Even if MGS had the email addresses when they recieved the first correspondence that threatened litigation, their lawyers would have issued a gag order on them.

I'm sure that MGS would love to comment, however, I've been in their situation where the lawyers have told me the only comment I could make was the name and contact info for my lawyer.
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Old 04-25-2009, 08:28 PM   #304
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

from http://money.cnn.com/2009/03/17/news...oney/index.htm

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Robb Evans, partner at Robb Evans & Associates, has hunted down scammed money all over the world, including the South Pacific archipelago of Vanuatu, where he's been trying to recover funds for years.
And one wonders why Tusk was incorporated in Vanuatu.
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Old 04-25-2009, 09:14 PM   #305
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And one wonders why Tusk was incorporated in Vanuatu.
In all fairness you can say that about just about any online casino. There is a reason why island of mann and indian reservations are a haven for this stuff :P
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:58 PM   #306
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

What do you all think about this. The poker/casino and affiliates have a big get togeather about 4 times a year, there usually in europe (holland one comming soon) Why dont we go there and make a fuss, wouldnt cost much n we get a hol!. I had nothing towards most of you wrapped up in this but it was my br, id finished my job good 50 nl br and then this!

Lets go to them and make our own table/corner n show the rest of the business there dirt. All the sites go to them all the big affiliates do to theres no reason why us normal people cant go there make a bit of a corner and make every one know. Id do it for a buzz if i can afford!
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Old 04-26-2009, 12:17 AM   #307
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Microgaming was good to me, in that I enjoyed playing there and made money. Took my roll of a little while go tho as just can't trust it now personally, and will say thx for the memories (and manies).
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Old 04-26-2009, 10:11 AM   #308
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

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What do you all think about this. The poker/casino and affiliates have a big get togeather about 4 times a year, there usually in europe (holland one comming soon) Why dont we go there and make a fuss, wouldnt cost much n we get a hol!.
I said this at least a month ago. Of course you should band together, of course you should make a stink, of course it's the last thing Microgaming wants, a group of angry players embarrassing them in front of their groupies. Do it.
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:42 PM   #309
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

When en where is that in the netherlands?
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Old 04-26-2009, 04:41 PM   #310
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

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I said this at least a month ago. Of course you should band together, of course you should make a stink, of course it's the last thing Microgaming wants, a group of angry players embarrassing them in front of their groupies. Do it.
+1. Make some signs, print out a ton of sheets with the information to pass out, put the links to these threads on it so that anyone can read up on it later. I'm sure there's some press at these things, go talk to those reporters, etc.
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Old 04-26-2009, 05:54 PM   #311
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

Probably not enough time left http://www.amsterdamaffiliateconference.com/
ill keep an eye out for the next one they almost always have them somewhere in europe like Amsterdam or Barcalona.

http://www.amsterdamaffiliateconfere.../future-events

There logo is here down near the bottom http://www.amsterdamaffiliateconfere...x.php/sponsors so it looks like they'll be there

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Old 04-27-2009, 07:19 AM   #312
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BTW did the Unibet rep ever come back to confirm whether they can dip player funds for their operating expenses or not? By his silence I am guessing they can..
Been away for the last week and a half.

Can confirm 100% that Unibet player funds are held in a separate/segregated account. MG do not have access, Unibet employees & CEO do not have access to remove funds from the segregated accounts. In the advent that MG or Unibet went bust, players funds would belong to the players. Am not going to explain the intricacies of the exact set up.. But, yes, your funds are safe..

Hope that helps.

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Old 04-27-2009, 07:28 AM   #313
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BTW did the Unibet rep ever come back to confirm whether they can dip player funds for their operating expenses or not? By his silence I am guessing they can..
With these sorts of assumptions, no wonder you guys are getting yourselves so confused over the TUSK affair.

Assumption, as we all know, is the mother of all F-Ups and makes an ass out of you and me...
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:10 AM   #314
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Assumption, as we all know, is the mother of all F-Ups and makes an ass out of you and me...
You don't need assumptions for that, you're doing a fine job on your own..


Seriously; GTFO and stop plugging your room here!
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Old 04-27-2009, 08:20 AM   #315
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Re: Microgaming poker scandal: licensee in liquidation, and poker players abandoned and owed $5

Hang on you were posting daily in here, claim 'funds are 100% safe' and then when asked to clarify exactly how disappear...

I'm pleased they are held in trust. It makes me think that Ladbrokes and Unibet are at least two safe rooms on MG. But if MG really are 'the no. 1 in player protection' etc then why aren't they making sure all their licensees hold player monies in this way?

As for the old 'ass of u and me' thing, please don't.
Without premises there can be no deductive reasoning.
If you don't assume you can't make plans, work anything out or think above the level of small mammal. You sure as hell can't play poker.
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