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05-14-2009 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Cidergut Frank
Read through this whole thread.

Whole situation is strange.

Really feel for you guys but....

What were you doing chasing too good to be true offers on pokey little "I am here today, likely gone tomorrow" poker rooms. Asking for trouble. A new poker room/skin offering 50%+ rakeback is not going to be around long. If a new online bank sprung up offering crazy 25%+ interest rates for savings, would you not be slightly suspicious?

Seems plenty of people hit did not pay attention to the first rule of bank rolling. Do not keep more than 20-25% of your bank roll in one place.

Chasing Microgaming to be held responsible for this is a total waste of time.

Final conclusion to this thread.. No one has a clue what is happening or what actually happened... including me..

Nothing like the blind leading the blind.

Also read somewhere (am trying to find where.. Can't remember which forum and was some time ago) that TUSK was actually set up and "owned" by one of Australia's richest men. Who, it did not say but must be pretty easy for you guys to dig down and figure it out. If I were to have a guess, I would say James Packer, based on, he is the only super rich Australian into "Media/entertainment". However, in saying that, rich guys tend not to be stupid and to 100% connect any "Rich Australian" to TUSK is going to be the same route as trying to hold Microgaming responsible.

Good luck to you all but am definitely not holding my breath.. If you get between 5-10 cents on the dollar (with a ceiling cap), you will be lucky.
While I agree with some of your points others are incorrect

1. Rakeback was nothign special there are many skins still in existance which offer high rakeback. Don;t know how many times I have to say it but rakeback was not why TUSK went bust. It is though why MGS and other casinos were pissed at the skins and likely made MGS less willing to help out players. There were no signs of trouble. No one predicted this.

2. Diversifying your poker account doesn't matter. While it reduces how much you lose it increases the chances that you are going to lose money. Also not practical to play on multiple sites for tons of reasons I won't mention. I do agree though that keeping large amount of bankroll on less than stellar skin is bad idea. I would suggest just not playing there at all though, don't even put down 1%. Only deposit on well known and established skins. No way I'd ever trust MGS after this. My whole roll is on stars and I feel safe with that. They always mail my cheques within 1 week. Never had a single problem with them.

3. Blind leading the blind. I agree with you there. But there is still lots of valuable info. Players will likely get more than what you suggest though, although not much more

4. The guy's name is ken talbot. Goodluck pinning anything on him.
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05-14-2009 , 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by acethiest
While I agree with some of your points others are incorrect. 4. The guy's name is ken talbot. Goodluck pinning anything on him.
From Wikipedia:

"Ken Talbot is the principal shareholder[1] and former CEO of the Macarthur Coal Ltd (ASX:MCC) mining company. Mr Talbot temporarily stood down as the CEO of the Macarthur Group Companies when he became embroiled in a controversy involving loans to (now former) Minister of Queensland, Gordon Nuttall[2]. On 19 January 2007, the Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission charged Mr Talbot with corruptly making payments totaling close to $300,000 to Mr Nuttall[3]."

Hmmmm. Yes Mr. Talbot please help run a poker network and handle millions of dollars worth of player funds.

Bit like asking Gary Glitter to babysit.
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05-14-2009 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cidergut Frank
From Wikipedia:

"Ken Talbot is the principal shareholder[1] and former CEO of the Macarthur Coal Ltd (ASX:MCC) mining company. Mr Talbot temporarily stood down as the CEO of the Macarthur Group Companies when he became embroiled in a controversy involving loans to (now former) Minister of Queensland, Gordon Nuttall[2]. On 19 January 2007, the Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission charged Mr Talbot with corruptly making payments totaling close to $300,000 to Mr Nuttall[3]."

Hmmmm. Yes Mr. Talbot please help run a poker network and handle millions of dollars worth of player funds.

Bit like asking Gary Glitter to babysit.
Beleive me I am well familiar with Ken Talbot. The news of him being connected with TUSK was released over a year ago. But it wasn't like he was running TUSK. No evidence to even suggest he was involved with the companies operations

Which makes pinning anything on him nearly impossible.

I have contacted liquidators regarding any prosecution and they saw no evidence TUSK behaved in any criminal fashion

FTR I do feel its likely TUSK acted in a criminal fashion. But its mostly a hunch...
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05-15-2009 , 10:19 PM
Been very quite guys someone write a template for an email and we all send it to watchdog all on the same day it'll make them look and maybe make a part of there show could even head to the isle of man and knock on microgaming doors. Worth a try nothing happening in this at the moment.
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05-16-2009 , 08:37 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/gotastory/

I submitted an overseas property ripoff a while back, never got a response.
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05-16-2009 , 12:38 PM
I reckon they get so many stories that alot get looked over but if someone made us a template for an email we all put our names on them and send from our email address, make a day that everyone sends maybe they will get seen.
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05-17-2009 , 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by pkr_brat
I reckon they get so many stories that alot get looked over but if someone made us a template for an email we all put our names on them and send from our email address, make a day that everyone sends maybe they will get seen.
I feel the need to step away from the UB thing to clear my head/calm down. I have had some time took look this thread over and would be glad to offer any help on the matter. The problem is I am from the U.S. and do not quite understand/or informed about all the laws in Europe on this issue.

I read the OP. Props for the good cliffs. I would be willing to work on a mass email for you, but I would most likely have to be filled in on the most important points or it may end up being too long. acethiest and mellowman seemed to be pretty well informed.
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05-17-2009 , 03:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mookman5
I feel the need to step away from the UB thing to clear my head/calm down. I have had some time took look this thread over and would be glad to offer any help on the matter. The problem is I am from the U.S. and do not quite understand/or informed about all the laws in Europe on this issue.

I read the OP. Props for the good cliffs. I would be willing to work on a mass email for you, but I would most likely have to be filled in on the most important points or it may end up being too long. acethiest and mellowman seemed to be pretty well informed.
We would really appreciate the help Mookman5!
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05-18-2009 , 06:52 AM
any news?
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05-18-2009 , 06:58 PM
A current example of a software provider doing the right thing:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/299525-post220.html

Casino tried to screw player with BS excuses, software provider (Galewind, who also supplies Pinnacle) pulled their license and paid the player:

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Someone needed to pay him, and we felt that we had an ultimate responsibility that transcended the filters of any legal obligations.
Clearly, Microgaming don't feel any comparable sense of responsibility for their players.
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05-22-2009 , 09:15 PM
So has anyone sent any mails to the liquidators recently? Any replies?
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05-25-2009 , 02:02 PM
I've been hearing alot of people having problems cashing out of Eurolinx...
Anyone know more about that?
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05-28-2009 , 05:22 AM
any news?
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05-28-2009 , 06:56 AM
I've just cashed 20k+ from eurolinx very easily. No problemo.
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05-28-2009 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Robin_Ripper
I've been hearing alot of people having problems cashing out of Eurolinx...
Anyone know more about that?
Microgaming reputation down the toilet; players see sense, go elsewhere to safer pastures; Microgaming poker rooms suffer subsequent cashflow problems with adherent issues, delayed payments...bla di bla etc.

'Course, that's only a guess.
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05-31-2009 , 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullitos
I've just cashed 20k+ from eurolinx very easily. No problemo.
Well done wish the rest would do the same.
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05-31-2009 , 10:51 AM
this is quite disturbing. where did the money go? isn't it criminal to run a company that is insolvent which tusk must have been for a long time in order to burn through all of the players cash? surely, poker sites aren't free to float players balances and use them for their own purposes. what is stop a poker site from sticking all their players deposits on black?
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05-31-2009 , 06:06 PM
Nothing, LOL. Anything goes. Of course it's criminal.

There are no regulations, and everything is based on trust. While your rooms treat you well, it's all good.

Situations like these serve to educate more deeply about where you are and are not safe. Microgaming has demonstrated that they are not, and taken a 5.5 million paycheck on that basis. It's up to you how you use the information.
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06-03-2009 , 12:27 PM
This thing has grinded to a slow and agonizing halt
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06-03-2009 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by TMcStacks
This thing has grinded to a slow and agonizing halt
Indeed, noone with information or news is saying anything and the liquidators aren't being any help either.

I can only hope some f'ed up stuff happens to those behind this, including those associated with MGS.
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06-07-2009 , 08:53 PM
Anything happening here?
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06-07-2009 , 09:33 PM
any news bigt?
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06-08-2009 , 09:09 PM
im looking every day ... nothing damn .. please give us our money back
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06-08-2009 , 09:36 PM
Has anyone msged the liquidators recently? If so please post here!
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06-08-2009 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Biko
It still amazes me that people will willing put money on sites with names such as 'Hot Pepper Poker' and 'Mr Urban Poker'. For starters, are there any people playing at these sites?
+1
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