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05-16-2009 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Redhotpoker
Mike admits dozens of times throughout his book that taking the "Ritalin" prescribed by his doctor for his ADHD (Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) gives him a huge edge whilst playing poker. He says the drug elevates his consciousness and sustains his focus at superhuman levels for long periods which gives him the ability to do so well. He takes this drug legally and regularly now and is making big money.
Taking any form of mind altering chemical - legal or illegal- in the tournament surely arena gives those with them in their system an unfair edge over those self medicating with blueberries , yoga or just a good nights sleep so I think we should demand routine drug screening before awards of final table bracelets and money at the WSOP. If you read what Mikey says and then start thinking about some of the characters who have made their fame and fortune when they might have been "enhanced" isnt it a very unfair playing field for 7 weeks of what is a mind sport .
I dont believe it is fair that somebody who has an illness is given a medicine which can elevate their poker game to a standard which cannot be attained unless they are ill. By all means allow him to be medicated to lead a happy normal life but is the diagnosis of this condition a through ticket to $$$$$$$$$$$ .
I think the OP should be drug tested prior 2 submitting any futher threads
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05-16-2009 , 04:28 PM
why do I open this forum. my god.
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05-16-2009 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by theDireWolf
also, i'm shocked a doctor would prescribe adderall to someone with a history of hardcore substance abuse. i guess it's b/c he's 'famous.'
I'm not.
If you saw all the knickknacks, notepads, etc. with pharma company logos
in my therapist's office, you'd be floored @ the amount of $$$ influence the pharma companies hold on the psychiatric community.
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05-16-2009 , 07:26 PM
Wait, we can still do blow though right?

*whew*
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05-16-2009 , 09:17 PM
i need some crack to make me not play like a spewtard
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05-16-2009 , 09:24 PM
being able to take drugs on a regular basis is one of the main reasons i play poker for a living
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05-16-2009 , 09:30 PM
Half the tables wearing sun glasses.... it's not sunny in any casino I've been in you must of bought into the logic of eye ball tells. The only tell I've ever been able to get from some ones eyes or not is drug of choice.
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05-16-2009 , 11:05 PM
op definitley has a point, but there is jus no way to enforce drug testing at wsop as it would be too expensive and too much of a hassle. ask for aderall, it def gives someone an edge wheth in school or poker. however it also has its downs too. from my experience when i tilt on aderall it is the sikest monkey tilt, as my heart beats fast and i lose my mind. so i try to stay away now. iam pretty sure this isnt true for others, but taking these enhancers def give a huge edge for most ppl
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05-17-2009 , 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by elmariachimacho
what an influx of idiots posting recently.
WTF are u?
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05-17-2009 , 12:58 AM
...as if half the player in vegas arn't toking during smoke breaks, popping pills in the bathroom, and snorting blow in their hotel rooms

should we also screen for alcohol as sometimes it makes one more calm and for some this causes them to tilt less easily?

this is essentially like saying someone with clincal depression on prozac shouldn't play events becuase it alters their natural human mood
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05-17-2009 , 01:01 AM
hopefully they don't steroid test otherwise im looking at a 50 tournament suspension?

does the WPT honor the WSOP bans for illegal drugs?
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05-17-2009 , 03:44 AM
^^^ at least you'll be back from your ban in time for the big one Manny i mean max
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05-17-2009 , 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Redhotpoker
Mike admits dozens of times throughout his book that taking the "Ritalin" prescribed by his doctor for his ADHD (Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) gives him a huge edge whilst playing poker. He says the drug elevates his consciousness and sustains his focus at superhuman levels for long periods which gives him the ability to do so well. He takes this drug legally and regularly now and is making big money.
Taking any form of mind altering chemical - legal or illegal- in the tournament surely arena gives those with them in their system an unfair edge over those self medicating with blueberries , yoga or just a good nights sleep so I think we should demand routine drug screening before awards of final table bracelets and money at the WSOP. If you read what Mikey says and then start thinking about some of the characters who have made their fame and fortune when they might have been "enhanced" isnt it a very unfair playing field for 7 weeks of what is a mind sport .
I dont believe it is fair that somebody who has an illness is given a medicine which can elevate their poker game to a standard which cannot be attained unless they are ill. By all means allow him to be medicated to lead a happy normal life but is the diagnosis of this condition a through ticket to $$$$$$$$$$$ .
I Agree 100%. I remember playing WoW Arena and being on top teams and MANY of the players were adderall(sp?) and ritalin users for focus/clarity. It is the steroids of the brain.
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05-17-2009 , 07:21 AM
It is almost impossible to beat a game where everybody else is on drugs. . .
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05-17-2009 , 07:31 AM
Didnt read thread but I will just say that any live poker is so **** boring how is anyone supposed to play it without adderal/ritalin?
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05-17-2009 , 02:54 PM
"Used with care and in the proper context, many drug (plants) do confer advantages on the creatures that consume them--fiddling with one's brain chemistry can be very useful indeed. Stimulants such as coffee, coca and khat help people to concentrate and work. Amazonian tribes take specific drugs to help them hunt, enhancing their endurance, eyesight, and strength. Their are psychoactive plants that uncork inhibitions, quicken the sex drive, muffle or fire aggression, and smooth the waters of social life. Still others relieve stress, help people sleep or stay awake, and allow them to withstand misery or boredom. All these plants (drugs) are, at least potentially, mental tools; people who know how to use them properly may be able to cope with everyday life better than those who don't." Michael Pollen
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05-17-2009 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Redhotpoker
Mike admits dozens of times throughout his book that taking the "Ritalin" prescribed by his doctor for his ADHD (Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder) gives him a huge edge whilst playing poker. He says the drug elevates his consciousness and sustains his focus at superhuman levels for long periods which gives him the ability to do so well. He takes this drug legally and regularly now and is making big money.
Taking any form of mind altering chemical - legal or illegal- in the tournament surely arena gives those with them in their system an unfair edge over those self medicating with blueberries , yoga or just a good nights sleep so I think we should demand routine drug screening before awards of final table bracelets and money at the WSOP. If you read what Mikey says and then start thinking about some of the characters who have made their fame and fortune when they might have been "enhanced" isnt it a very unfair playing field for 7 weeks of what is a mind sport .
I dont believe it is fair that somebody who has an illness is given a medicine which can elevate their poker game to a standard which cannot be attained unless they are ill. By all means allow him to be medicated to lead a happy normal life but is the diagnosis of this condition a through ticket to $$$$$$$$$$$ .

I agree, but if they're prescribed this, forcing them to give it up is unfair too.
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05-17-2009 , 05:12 PM
REDBULL GIVES YOU WINGS!
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05-17-2009 , 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sokrateez
this has to be one of the dumbest things i have ever read
I agree
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05-17-2009 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyBishop
Let's play the "think before you speak" game...you go first genius. You're seriously speaking of screening for legal and/or prescription drugs? I'm assuming that you would want the person who has to take nitroglycerin pills for a heart condition to also be excluded from winning $$$ b/c the nitro allows the person to maintain a somewhat regular heartbeat?
They do the exact same thing in sports - namely screening for drugs that are otherwise perfectlly legal with a prescription but against the rules of the sport. They're not just screening for street drugs with no legal use like LSD, they screen for steriods and all sorts of things that many people take legally.

Maybe you should be the one playing "think before you speak"?

(P.S. - I think you're confusing nitro with beta blockers which are used by golfers and performers in order to reduce stage fright.)
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05-17-2009 , 06:13 PM
Anyhow, why is it okay to prohibit performaqnce enhancing drugs from sports but ridic to do the same in poker?
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05-17-2009 , 08:01 PM
i don't even play poker unless i have adderall.
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05-17-2009 , 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonInDallas
Anyhow, why is it okay to prohibit performaqnce enhancing drugs from sports but ridic to do the same in poker?
Are you a fully fledged troll, or just a ****ing ******?
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05-17-2009 , 08:21 PM
lol a lot of people itt don't realize people use adderall illegally. it's not the same as drinking a ****ing redbull.
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05-17-2009 , 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonInDallas
Anyhow, why is it okay to prohibit performaqnce enhancing drugs from sports but ridic to do the same in poker?
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Originally Posted by uistbhoy
Are you a fully fledged troll, or just a ****ing ******?
So, you have no answer?
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